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    The tank doesn't need to say anything because this game has active battle logging anyway. It'll be obvious if the GM reviews them, and that is that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    The tank doesn't need to say anything because this game has active battle logging anyway. It'll be obvious if the GM reviews them, and that is that.
    It's a lot more fun when some of these "You Pull, You Tank" heads are writing out the report for you in chat. Do these idiots not know it's an actionable offence?

    Let that sink in while a GM throws them in the time-out chair in GM jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
    It's a lot more fun when some of these "You Pull, You Tank" heads are writing out the report for you in chat. Do these idiots not know it's an actionable offence?

    Let that sink in while a GM throws them in the time-out chair in GM jail.
    Your first problem is not having a point in time to reference an alleged incident ever happening. For all you can confirm, I have been speaking hypothetically the entire time. That's why I can be smug about it and you can pretend to maintain a moral high ground to justify Ad Hominem attacking others. This isn't some kind of goofy edgy 4D chess big brain play here at all. Discover Occam's Razor.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
    If your point is simply “sometimes I can’t grab everything in time,” fair enough — nobody’s perfect. But let’s not dress that up as some grand philosophy about letting people die on principle. That’s not me assuming, that’s just me reading what you actually wrote.
    You're just scratching the surface of something about making assumptions. It's 100% "sometimes I can't grab everything in time".

    Wink wonk.

    If the tank isn't pulling more, there's a reason for it. The correct solution is asking them why to resolve that, instead of potentially catching 5 casts of Unfinal Sting trying to bring everything into the AOE blender because..... what happened again? Oh right. You made an assumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost View Post
    Your first problem is not having a point in time to reference an alleged incident ever happening. For all you can confirm, I have been speaking hypothetically the entire time. That's why I can be smug about it and you can pretend to maintain a moral high ground to justify Ad Hominem attacking others. This isn't some kind of goofy edgy 4D chess big brain play here at all. Discover Occam's Razor.
    So the defense is “it was all hypothetical” — convenient. Nothing like retroactively slapping a thought-experiment label on your own words once they get called out. Occam’s Razor here isn’t that you’re playing 4D chess; it’s that you said exactly what you meant, and now you’re backpedaling under the safety of hypotheticals.

    And if pointing that out is “ad hominem,” then maybe the real problem isn’t my moral high ground — Calling out contradictions isn’t ad hominem — it’s just me putting a mirror up. If you don’t like the reflection, that’s not my fallacy.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost View Post
    You're just scratching the surface of something about making assumptions. It's 100% "sometimes, I can't grab everything in time".

    Wink wonk.

    If the tank isn't pulling more, there's a reason for it. The correct solution is asking them why to resolve that, instead of potentially catching 5 casts of Unfinal Sting trying to bring everything into the AOE blender because..... what happened again? Oh right. You made an assumption.
    “Wink wonk” is cute, but it doesn’t cover the fact that your stance has been moonwalking all over this thread. First, it was “let them die,” then “it’s hypothetical,” now it’s “actually, you’re just assuming.”

    Nobody’s saying tanks never miss a grab — that happens to all of us. The problem was that you dressed it up, letting DPS faceplant, as some enlightened philosophy instead of just being late on a pull. That wasn’t an assumption; again, those were your own words.

    If you’ve finally settled on “sometimes I miss stuff,” then hey — welcome to the same reality the rest of us were already living in. Congrats on catching up, champ.

    Glad we cleared that up. Took a while, but we got there. That’s enough backflips for me. You can keep rewriting your stance; I’ll stick to playing the game.
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    Last edited by MaikoRaines; 08-17-2025 at 02:43 PM. Reason: "Did you learn those big words all by yourself?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
    So the defense is “it was all hypothetical” — convenient. Nothing like retroactively slapping a thought-experiment label on your own words once they get called out. Occam’s Razor here isn’t that you’re playing 4D chess; it’s that you said exactly what you meant, and now you’re backpedaling under the safety of hypotheticals.

    And if pointing that out is “ad hominem,” then maybe the real problem isn’t my moral high ground — Calling out contradictions isn’t ad hominem — it’s just me putting a mirror up. If you don’t like the reflection, that’s not my fallacy.



    “Wink wonk” is cute, but it doesn’t cover the fact that your stance has been moonwalking all over this thread. First, it was “let them die,” then “it’s hypothetical,” now it’s “actually, you’re just assuming.”

    Nobody’s saying tanks never miss a grab — that happens to all of us. The problem was that you dressed it up, letting DPS faceplant, as some enlightened philosophy instead of just being late on a pull. That wasn’t an assumption; again, those were your own words.

    If you’ve finally settled on “sometimes I miss stuff,” then hey — welcome to the same reality the rest of us were already living in. Congrats on catching up, champ.

    Glad we cleared that up. Took a while, but we got there. That’s enough backflips for me. You can keep rewriting your stance; I’ll stick to playing the game.
    This sounds like a whole lot of not my problem. Why does your class say Archer at level 100? Can we talk about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost View Post
    This sounds like a whole lot of not my problem. Why does your class say Archer at level 100? Can we talk about that?
    Going from Occam’s Razor to “lol Archer” is certainly… a journey. Gas tank running on empty now? Glad you enjoyed the detour more than the discussion.

    Don’t worry about my class tag — it’s still pulling more weight than your tanking and your argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
    Going from Occam’s Razor to “lol Archer” is certainly… a journey. Gas tank running on empty now? Glad you enjoyed the detour more than the discussion.

    Don’t worry about my class tag — it’s still pulling more weight than your tanking and your argument.
    i think they're just baiting at this point
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    Last edited by theunhappypotato; 08-18-2025 at 03:19 AM. Reason: english is hard