Wuk Lamat

[All_Nonsense]

She is dialed back in the post-DT quests so you'll have that to look forward to. They're allowing her to show her strengths and have the other characters who are strong at doing other things handle the things they should be handling.

The post-DT quests have been just as terrible. Absolutely horrid writing from this team, it's unbelievable. Just as a singular example, I find it hard to believe that the kid (the "king" of Tural or whatever. The turtle) is the smartest person in the room. And the child catgirl in the raid quests? With the advanced understanding of the disease we just learned existed? Give me a break. They're trying to get me to suspend my disbelief over an endless chasm.

Tinfoil hat theory: The writing team (we'll call them "crane operators" since the only writing device they're familiar with is deus ex machina) is literally trying to rage bait us and SE is releasing FF17 Online soon to catch all the people who lost their attachment to the game. Because I refuse to believe any sufficiently intelligent human can honest to god pass off what we've gotten in 7.0 and beyond as anything close to what the game has been up to this point - even what we got in ARR. It's almost an insult.

[Shistar]

There's even a shot in the cutscene where Sphene is ordering coffee or something, and Wuk Lamat is literally off to the side, staring into the distance blank-faced like she's in Offline mode.

She is waiting her turn on the communal hrothgal brain cell, please hold.

Holy moly the echo chamber you live in is crazy. I've played The Interphos over 100 times in PF and most I would see people react with is "WUK LAMAT COMES IN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR" or say "SPEEEN". Either your entire group of friends and FC desperately need to touch grass if you're reacting like this over a cool video game cutscene or you're making this shit up for some reason and idk which is weirder.

I mean, it was definitely jarring to see her showing up to begin with, and even more jarring that only she did..? Did G'raha and Krile just get deleted off the duty or something? Did they accidentally cast Return and ended up back at Limsa?

I find it hard to believe that the kid (the "king" of Tural or whatever. The turtle) is the smartest person in the room. And the child catgirl in the raid quests? With the advanced understanding of the disease we just learned existed? Give me a break.

Gulool Ja, I'll buy it. I think the kid prodigy trope can be pulled off with him because we were showed very early on that he knows how to use electrope from living in those ruins and getting by. It also doesn't feel as terrible when the King's authority falls on him because he supposedly knows how this stuff works - at least on a practical level - and he has Oblivion to back him up. I would personally want Sphene to come with us for the next arc, but being realistic she'll most likely be Queen along with Gulool. Neyuni felt very random tbh, but I guess they desperately needed a character to Wuk Lamat us into the conclusion instead of letting us put two and two together on our own.

[XtremePrime]

I had a generally neutral opinion on Wuk Lamat till the very last trial of the expansion, that's when I lost it and the opinion tilted heavily into dislike.
I can't accept her out of the party members that were there like G'raha and Y'sthola which are way smarter and more magically inclined, of all of them to be Wuk Lamat that breaks the barrier of reality, resulting in her coming into our fight last minute to take final hit.

Overshadowing us in a moment where Sphene herself isolated us as the "biggest potential threat to her plan" (making it our moment of the expansion) is both cruel and inexcusable.

Imagine if they did that with Lyse? You're fighting Shinryu in Stormblood and just before the end of the fight, Lyse comes in with a flying kick and goes like "Yeah WoL, I did it!"

[Aviatorhead]

. I would personally want Sphene to come with us for the next arc, but being realistic she'll most likely be Queen along with Gulool.

I would drop this games story hard if they tried to drag Sphene along as a scion. We don't need anymore characters lumped into the scions, especially not one as boring and pointless as Sphene.

[AngelCheese77]

I laugh each time I read posts like the OPs, complaining about Wuk Lamat.

We are in a new place. The Scions have disbanded and taken a background role now after Endwalker. So of course we will come across new characters and THEY will be taking center stage now.

[Hallarem]

I laugh each time I read posts like the OPs, complaining about Wuk Lamat.

We are in a new place. The Scions have disbanded and taken a background role now after Endwalker. So of course we will come across new characters and THEY will be taking center stage now.

Kinda weird how they have taken a "backround role" and we still drag them along with us everywhere.
Kinda weird how Krile was supposed to have a major role in the expansion, but never got her due and was constantly muscled out of scenes by Wuk Lamat
Kinda weird how these "new characters" were dominated by one character getting all the spotlight

Wuk Lamat could've been great, but they tried way too hard and lacked the writing talent to make her shine and balanced it way too much on one character. And tried to panic and scramble to the point even Yoshi P said "Give her a chance, we will show her great side" when the milk was already spilled on the ground

[Auro_Seldaris]

snipped nonsense about Wuk Lamat

I had a generally neutral opinion on Wuk Lamat till the very last trial of the expansion, that's when I lost it and the opinion tilted heavily into dislike.
I can't accept her out of the party members that were there like G'raha and Y'sthola which are way smarter and more magically inclined, of all of them to be Wuk Lamat that breaks the barrier of reality, resulting in her coming into our fight last minute to take final hit.

Overshadowing us in a moment where Sphene herself isolated us as the "biggest potential threat to her plan" (making it our moment of the expansion) is both cruel and inexcusable.

Imagine if they did that with Lyse? You're fighting Shinryu in Stormblood and just before the end of the fight, Lyse comes in with a flying kick and goes like "Yeah WoL, I did it!"

Hey, @spookykobold, THIS ^^^^^

is what I'm talking about

Don't act like this is some hive mind and everyone should be a brainless barking seal, clapping for whatever drivel Yoshida serves. YOU are the one who needs to touch grass and consider that not everyone will have the same opinion or feelings. For everyone like you who saw it as a "cool cutscene" , there's someone who's going to think it's the cringiest thing they've ever witnessed.

Because it is.

It's an unearned powerup, after we were specifically called out by Sphene as the only REAL threat to her. It is a ridiculous power upgrade from being a literal scaredy-cat afraid of a talking bird, and not even being able to scratch Bakool Ja Ja, to being able to shatter dimensional rifts and deadlift multi-ton robot arms. It interferes with the single cool moment us peasant Player Characters were allowed by Hiroi and our goodly dev overlords, literally the only time we get to even flex on an antagonist the entire expansion, and do our REAL job of protecting the Source and Shards from danger. As Blade said, "Some mother*****rs are always trying to ice-skate uphill" and it's OUR job as the WoL to put them in their place. And Hiroi just HAS to have his Mary Sue OC furry waifu jump in and kill-steal it, while the buff claims that WE are the one being inspired by HER.

Every single reason XremePrime gave is precisely why people who dislike it consider it the biggest "jump the shark" moment in the game, and this is coming from someone who was neutral on her for the entire experience. It was the moment that absolutely ruined the story for me. It took me out of the moment so hard that I just stood there motionless and died. I sleepwalked through the rest of the fight and have mentally checked out of FFXIV's world now, perhaps permanently.

But I guess some people can just have their brain hacked by "WOW HYPE MUSIC PLAYING AND ACTION HAPPENING!"

I mean, when you have multiple people in this very thread and many others, telling you the same thing, I think it's a little disingenuous to claim that people are "in an echo chamber" or "making shit up". I don't know XtremePrime. Or All_Nonsense. I don't know Jeeqbit, I don't even agree with half of anything Jeeqbit writes, but we're all together on this one. It's an immersion-shattering moment that destroys any sense of worldbuilding or logic.

[DiaDeem]

[Sunhwapark]

I can't accept her out of the party members that were there like G'raha and Y'sthola which are way smarter and more magically inclined, of all of them to be Wuk Lamat that breaks the barrier of reality, resulting in her coming into our fight last minute to take final hit.

That moment and also the gospel train bomb montage had me laughing for days at the absurd events written into the story.

[Hallarem]

That moment and also the gospel train bomb montage had me laughing for days at the absurd events written into the story.

Gospel train bomb XD