Wuk Lamat

[DiaDeem]

[Aniise]

Truly, this must be the Wukest Lamat of all time.

Coming back to the main topic, I just hope they make her leave already. I can't wait for the moment we say goodbye forever to Llama Tea. No matter how they get rid of her, just...get rid of her.

Also, comparing any other character that helped us out during a trial to her (and with helped us out, I mean helped us out, not broke through a barrier to rip the boss apart in front of our eyes) hurts to read and almost borders on being offensive. The writing of this scene was just bad. There is no comparison, nothing to justify it. And every time I get thrown into this trial, I sigh. Because I have to watch the ridiculous cutscene again.

[Striker44]

The post-DT quests have been just as terrible. Absolutely horrid writing from this team, it's unbelievable. Just as a singular example, I find it hard to believe that the kid (the "king" of Tural or whatever. The turtle) is the smartest person in the room. And the child catgirl in the raid quests? With the advanced understanding of the disease we just learned existed? Give me a break. They're trying to get me to suspend my disbelief over an endless chasm.

It's amazing how different people can have different opinions! For example, I've been enjoying both the 7.0 MSQ and the patches since. It's perfectly fine to feel the opposite way and not like them - but turning it into vitriolic personal attacks at the dev team because you have a different opinion is...well, I'll just say I hope you're not someone who also wonders why this forum doesn't get taken seriously. Also, for the record, the "little sibling is a whiz kid" trope has existed since before any of us were born.

Kinda weird how they have taken a "backround role" and we still drag them along with us everywhere.

Background characters by their nature still exist...they're not the main focus anymore, but it's not weird at all for them to still be there.

Kinda weird how Krile was supposed to have a major role in the expansion, but never got her due and was constantly muscled out of scenes by Wuk Lamat

I was expecting a bit more for Krile, too, but we still got plenty and Wuk Lumat wasn't "muscling her out" of anything.

Kinda weird how these "new characters" were dominated by one character getting all the spotlight

Also not weird at all to have a bunch of new characters but one of them in particular getting the "spotlight."

Holy moly the echo chamber you live in is crazy. I've played The Interphos over 100 times in PF and most I would see people react with is "WUK LAMAT COMES IN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR" or say "SPEEEN". Either your entire group of friends and FC desperately need to touch grass if you're reacting like this over a cool video game cutscene or you're making this shit up for some reason and idk which is weirder.

This. Notice how the person you're responding to only seems to do it with their own friend group or FC, where people are by nature more likely to have similar opinions on things.

Don't act like this is some hive mind and everyone should be a brainless barking seal, clapping for whatever drivel Yoshida serves. YOU are the one who needs to touch grass and consider that not everyone will have the same opinion or feelings.

This response, on the other hand, makes absolutely no sense (though the vitriol and personal attacks are par for the course with the negative echo chamber around here). The person you're responding to never said anything like that, just pointed out that they have had a different experience. They also do the content with a wide variety of different groups, while the person they were responding to played only with their friend group/FC. One of those is going to give you a better perspective on the larger community. But way to put words into someone's mouth so you could personally attack them since apparently you couldn't refute their point.

We've never had any Scions help during the actual final battle so ANY of them actually assisting in a final battle would have been weird to me.

(All of the Scions help us in the EW battle - the whole shield thing protecting us from the second LB...)

[All_Nonsense]

"Um guys, where is le downvote button?"

Bro just hit me with the "erm, what the scallop. Don't be mean!" and then tries to justify bad writing by claiming it's an ancient esoteric technique from ancient times. Your strange moral highground isn't going to assist you much here. Whether people are mean or not with their feedback isn't our problem to deal with. It's the billion dollar company's problem to deal with while they're being paid hundreds of millions of dollars. If they can't handle a little hard sentiment then they're not cut out for this whole "running a business thing." I don't care if the "kid smarter than even god himself" trope was successful in the Astro Boy days, it's not going to hit in today's times because the people playing the game aren't 80......yet. You'd be lucky to find someone who even wants a kid character to be in the same room as their WoL - most people don't like kids these days. It's not a huge revelation either. This is basic common sense for a non-lazy writer to perceive and to avoid. But then, we didn't really get any compelling writing this expansion either. Writing almost as lazy as the arguments in defense of it.

[Shistar]

I would drop this games story hard if they tried to drag Sphene along as a scion. We don't need anymore characters lumped into the scions, especially not one as boring and pointless as Sphene.

That's just your opinion. I like her enough.
I never said anything about her becoming a Scion, there's technically no Scions anymore, I'd just like her to be around for longer than she'll realistically be with us because I'd like to see her character evolve into something deeper like Zero with her mini-arc.

[Oizen]

I liken her presence to Jar Jar Binks in most scenes.

[Aniise]

I liken her presence to Jar Jar Binks in most scenes.

True, but Jar Jar at least wasn't as omnipresent as her. He was only really annoying in Episode 1. In 2 and 3 he had way fewer appearances. While we got stuck with Little Miss Furrypaws for multiple patches now.

[JMadFour]

Wuk Lamat is not even a BAD character, overall.

She is just too prominent in the back half of the story.

Once she becomes Dawnservant, her story is basically finished, and she should have started fading into the background of the story.

Everything after that should have been focused on Krile and Erenville, but especially Krile.

[Mawlzy]

Wuk Lamat is not even a BAD character, overall.

She is just too prominent in the back half of the story.

Once she becomes Dawnservant, her story is basically finished, and she should have started fading into the background of the story.

Everything after that should have been focused on Krile and Erenville, but especially Krile.

The problem with Krile and Erenville IMO is that, while both are likeable, they are also intrinsically quite dull.

Like Erenville's whole bit is that he is taciturn, whereas Krile only shines when she's embarrassing Alphinaud. Plus I just don't find someone wielding a paintbrush to be particularly intimidating.

[Auro_Seldaris]

The problem with Krile and Erenville IMO is that, while both are likeable, they are also intrinsically quite dull.

Like Erenville's whole bit is that he is taciturn, whereas Krile only shines when she's embarrassing Alphinaud. Plus I just don't find someone wielding a paintbrush to be particularly intimidating.

Can't disagree with you on anything there. It's why I thought Erenville didn't make for a particularly interesting narrator/ POV character, or even a party member. Silly retconning of his backstory and history aside, his whole schtick is being unflappable and taciturn. Let's be real, he's pretty and that's most of his appeal. Krile is okay, she could have been a decent character but we have a lot of "smart, nice" people around, she needed something to make her stand out from the crowd. DT could have given her that but alas, it was Llama Tea all the way down. And I agree, the paintbrush and palette aren't exactly fearsome, but that's why it was ok for a mid tier support character like her to have it.

I mean look, even the devs don't care about Krile. They just literally forgot her in the EW poster art. Then when she gets the big moment to use her orphan trinket to open the gate, she .... gets denied. (That moment really, REALLY convinced me they hate her. Can't let her have ONE moment, Sad Lizard Lad has to do it for her.)

But fundamentally I agree, they are kinda boring as characters.