Wuk Lamat

[RedLolly]

As someone who actually liked Zenos...

Then someone in this thread clearly wasn't around for when Stormblood was live, because all anyone did was talk about how annyoing Lyse was and what a boring uninteresting character Zenos was.

And they also must not have been around for when Endwalker was live, becuase all anyone did was complain about how annoyingly nihilistic Hermes A. Fandaniel was, and how they hated that Zenos was back and were glad at his apparent final death.

I was about to make the same comment on Zenos. The general consensus was EW mostly redeemed him, but there is still a base of players that really dislike him (there is an response option on the finale duel that clearly puts him and his motives down for us to choose for a reason). Personally I found him predatory and a necessary evil in the final battle, but written decently well.

I also found Hermes to be a terrifying commentary of severe depression in a society very much not equipped to handle it despite being literally paradise. There is only so much that can be taken from physical comfort and community when the brain juices are broken. Meteion being a terrible attempt to try to ask for help from people that might understand going so poorly was a possibility he likely couldn't even consider (and boy he crashed hard when he learned it!). And then it happens to him AGAIN BUT WORSE within Allag.

Meanwhile I really like DT having Alexandria have almost zero legacy by erasing the dead from the living's memory, but I don't feel like they're exploring it enough yet. We're seeing grown adults have the same reaction to death as a toddler meanwhile most of the copies in Living Memory were content with being deleted.

Wuk Lamat always winning immediately destroyed the Mamook section, to me. Mamook was run through WAY too fast for that kind of sheer horror and deeply ingrained, religious culture, even though you could see the people hated it and we did have a way to move them out of it. Ishgard storylines have attacked that kind of thing from different angles, so I wonder if the writers felt played out? But just because Wuk is the worst kind of shonen protag, she and her posse (Koana, the smart one) fixed it all immediately.

It sucks because Dawntrail had plenty of topics a plot strings that reflect the kind of depth we expect, but they just refused to fo any diving.

[AmiableApkallu]

Meanwhile I really like DT having Alexandria have almost zero legacy by erasing the dead from the living's memory, but I don't feel like they're exploring it enough yet. We're seeing grown adults have the same reaction to death as a toddler meanwhile most of the copies in Living Memory were content with being deleted.

Regarding death, Alexandria stands in complete contrast to the Yok Huy, something I don't think the story as told makes any effort to encourage you to ponder.

[Auro_Seldaris]

Regarding death, Alexandria stands in complete contrast to the Yok Huy, something I don't think the story as told makes any effort to encourage you to ponder.

PRECISELY.

It's one of those points that is literally never mentioned or dwelled on. Meanwhile we can repeat the same lines about peas and happiness and how regulators work like, 6 times. Baffling.

[Exmo]

Regarding death, Alexandria stands in complete contrast to the Yok Huy, something I don't think the story as told makes any effort to encourage you to ponder.

I think players are expected to have the minimum amount of literacy needed to gather obvious meaning from clearly presented contrasts on their own. Lord knows there's plenty on the forums who complain when the story tells them What It's About. We can hardly chastise the writers for using something as exotic as subtext.

[Astronis]

I think players are expected to have the minimum amount of literacy needed to gather obvious meaning from clearly presented contrasts on their own. Lord knows there's plenty on the forums who complain when the story tells them What It's About. We can hardly chastise the writers for using something as exotic as subtext.

Yeah...as often as the story treats me like a subliterate idiot with the memory of a goldfish, I'd never forgive it if it did so all the time. Death, Legacy, and Family was pretty well all over Dawntrail and I'm glad the writers didn't bash me over the head with it. It's there to see for anyone who cares to look.

[Mawlzy]

It shows what a desert of interesting content 7.X has been when, more than a year after launch, people are still pointing out there was rather too much Wuk Lamat.