Potential Housing Crisis Fix (Includes ability for permanent Housing (Sm, Med, Lrg)

[Shistar]

I know it's frustrating but this is all you can do for now and it worked for me, that is all.

People get seriously frustrated and it's understandable, but it's no one's fault besides SE... no point in getting upset at Rinoa for sharing what worked for them. It's not the ideal solution, but it is better than being homeless and it's really really easy to meet the requirements to get a house nowadays, specially if you have a main that can support the alt.

[Solowing]

I pay my subscription like anyone else, I
Solowing who like to pretend they are not gate keepers supporting a toxic system.

I could tell you exactly where you could find some open plots , even the large ones. But I guarantee you won't go. I'm not gatekeeping you.You're gate keeping yourself. The only one preventing yourself getting the plot is yoursel.

I think you're just entitled. You're upset that I have a plot but I did what I had to get it. I did what I could to increase my chances. Rather than sit here, complain and expect an entire system to change to suit me..

You should try it.You might make some progress.

I paid for my subscription as well. Can you point to me where the game told me I was entitled to a plot?

Or do YOU feel entitled to that? I do feel that you're entitled to the feature of housing. Which again that issue was solved when they incorporated apartment. Housing wasn't possible if you didn't have a plot.

Your issue isn't how it's inaccessible. You were not on one of the servers that have this is a genuine issue like Balmung. Housing is accessible to you.You just feel entitled to something more like a plot.

Be honest with your opinion.

I don't really care that everyone doesn't have a plot. It's been clear to me since the day I figured out what the plots were it was clear they were never enough for each individual player, you gotta be lucky and not picky and that how i treated the system. As it was shown to me.

[s32ialx]

That's really unfortunate


Have you considered creating or moving an alt to Dynamis to get a plot there? If you go to one of the newest worlds like Golem, Kraken and such, there are medium plots you can grab and I think there may be a few mansion plots too. It took my main 7 years to get her plot in Exodus but I had sent my main alt to Seraph when it first went live over two and a half years ago now to get a zero bid mansion. This made my wait for my main (won a year and a half after alt in Seraph) far more bearable as I was able to enjoy housing to the fullest on my alt and I always invited friends over even from Exodus. I know your frustration and hope you win a plot for your main soon but please consider having an alt utilize the plentiful housing in Dynamis in the meantime. SE needs to allow us to have access to all of our plot regardless of the world they are in since they are all linked to our account.

If they gave you perma housing people like me would drop subs in these 3 month down times and square would have to work for the subs ;P

People get seriously frustrated and it's understandable, but it's no one's fault besides SE... no point in getting upset at Rinoa for sharing what worked for them. It's not the ideal solution, but it is better than being homeless and it's really really easy to meet the requirements to get a house nowadays, specially if you have a main that can support the alt.

I know it's frustrating but this is all you can do for now and it worked for me, that is all.

It's not about getting upset at Rinoa, it's the fact I have been on Behemoth since 2015 and I should not be pushed off it just to get a house I should not have to leave just to get a house, I should not have to leave just to get a house.

The fact is they are making housing FoMo as a way to force people to pay instead of actually designing engaging content that makes people want to keep paying their sub. World of Warcraft has never has such a gated FoMo system in it's entire lifespan which is longer than XIV's and they have been doing just fine because they give content people want.

[Rabblerabble]

I do not think anything past regular apartments should be demo timer free.

I do feel if someone wanted a much larger "apartment" like a "large" house size one, they pay the same gil for a large house and get a balcony for gardening and lawn chairs like a normal large house, but it also gets a demo timer. Fair play is fair play imho.

[s32ialx]

I do not think anything past regular apartments should be demo timer free.

I do feel if someone wanted a much larger "apartment" like a "large" house size one, they pay the same gil for a large house and get a balcony for gardening and lawn chairs like a normal large house, but it also gets a demo timer. Fair play is fair play imho.

LOLOLOLOLOL yeah gatekeeping you realize this is 2025 there if they can't keep people baesd on good content and solely relying on a demo timed that the game is done right? if the content is trash and people can't even take breaks without FoMo for losing their house, when they finally crack and take a break they will not bother coming back becausae what is there to come back to they lost everything because they mentally needed a break. NO ONE should be forced to pay for a subscription when they want a break, and no one should be forced to lose hundreds of hours thousands of hours of work for items and gil because they needed a break.

[Rabblerabble]

LOLOLOLOLOL yeah gatekeeping you realize this is 2025 there if they can't keep people baesd on good content and solely relying on a demo timed that the game is done right? if the content is trash and people can't even take breaks without FoMo for losing their house, when they finally crack and take a break they will not bother coming back becausae what is there to come back to they lost everything because they mentally needed a break. NO ONE should be forced to pay for a subscription when they want a break, and no one should be forced to lose hundreds of hours thousands of hours of work for items and gil because they needed a break.

If they took the demo timers off normal housing, sure.
My point is, to realistically expect that people can get an alternative to housing as it is, to get a cheaper one that is better than a normal house, with no sub required to keep it is kind of... well it is ignoring how SE operates for one. Secondly, for whatever reason, like it is cheaper for them to incentivize transferring to underpopiated worlds instead of code something that gives a never ending house to people, they seem to prefer making people xfer to another data center to get a "normal" fomo house as you put it.

Again my point is that it should follow the same rules everyone is already subjected to.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Again my point is that it should follow the same rules everyone is already subjected to.

They don’t need to because they are different systems that require different resources.

The only reason that auto-demo exists is because no one would ever get a ward plot if they didn’t get rid of the inactive players’ plots. That’s definitely the fault of the design, but players asked for auto demo and got it for this specific reason.

Instanced housing - whether we’re talking housing plots or apartments - does not take up permanent physical space like a ward plot, and does not prevent anyone else from owning the same thing, so it wouldn’t require auto-demo.

Same rules would be the pricing being equivalent, but as anyone who shouts down those who want instanced housing says “instanced housing is inferior” (insert eyeroll here), even though it would open up a wealth of features that we can never even hope for with the ward system. All the new features they’re playing with? Because the insides of houses are instanced. Which is why your Island Sanctuary can have more items than the yard of a mansion, they’re instanced too.

But while we’re talking about everyone being treated the same, those of us who were lucky enough to get a ward plot are getting more money’s worth for our subs than those who haven’t had the good RNG to own a house. So maybe that’s the issue we should focus on addressing…

[Solowing]

It's not about getting upset at Rinoa, it's the fact I have been on Behemoth since 2015 and I should not be pushed off it just to get a house I should not have to leave just to get a house, I should not have to leave just to get a house.

The fact is they are making housing FoMo as a way to force people to pay instead of actually designing engaging content that makes people want to keep paying their sub. World of Warcraft has never has such a gated FoMo system in it's entire lifespan which is longer than XIV's and they have been doing just fine because they give content people want.

That's not really true. When I started plots did not have a demolition timer. An apartments didn't exist. So you would have plots that were ligit abandoned for months or even years. The playersasked for the demolition timer. I myself asked for it as well. And so they added it.

S.E got the suggestion from the players, but it benefit them in the end. You use your plot, or you lose your plot. And that indirectly ties your sub to it. Because you can lose your plot even with an active subscription if you aren't using it on any level. But if you really like your plot, what's the price of a drive through meal?

[Solowing]

LOLOLOLOLOL yeah gatekeeping you realize this is 2025 there if they can't keep people baesd on good content and solely relying on a demo timed that the game is done right? if the content is trash and people can't even take breaks without FoMo for losing their house, when they finally crack and take a break they will not bother coming back becausae what is there to come back to they lost everything because they mentally needed a break. NO ONE should be forced to pay for a subscription when they want a break, and no one should be forced to lose hundreds of hours thousands of hours of work for items and gil because they needed a break.

News flash, the forum users put forward the suggestion of the demo timer. I saw the threads, I too asked for the demolition timer.

You're not arguing the reverse side side of the coin, as granting it with no demo timer gives no incentive to keep your sub active.

Nobody is gatekeeping you as nobody is saying remove your chance for a plot. We are actually trying to help you increase your odds. It's you that is resisting the advice and calling us gatekeepers because you feel entitled to a plot.

You guys can take a break for as long as you want. The game is not asking much of you outside spending two minutes to log in to check your plot. You're telling me you can't so much as look at ff14 once in 45 days for it to count as a "break"?

No one is forced to do anything, I willingly pay square my money, just to continue to login and enjoy my plot. And eventually when I get tired of the game and the plot loses its luster, then I can just let it go along with my subscription. What's keeping you "there" is sunken cost and or emotional attachment.

Square doesn't have a gun to your head, but they are using your attachment to it to keep you on a leash, you willingly tied yourself to, but you can untie yourself at any time.

[Rinoa_353]

It's not about getting upset at Rinoa, it's the fact I have been on Behemoth since 2015 and I should not be pushed off it just to get a house I should not have to leave just to get a house, I should not have to leave just to get a house.

The fact is they are making housing FoMo as a way to force people to pay instead of actually designing engaging content that makes people want to keep paying their sub. World of Warcraft has never has such a gated FoMo system in it's entire lifespan which is longer than XIV's and they have been doing just fine because they give content people want.

It feels like you didn't read my post, I never said for your main to leave Behemoth, I said for you to move or create an alt character in Dynamis....