We need more casual PvE content.

[CidHeiral]

Stuff like that is why casual players kinda feel like an afterthought for the part of the dev team responsible for combat content.

They just released an entire zone that is 99% casual combat content. Next patch they're adding a new alliance raid, a new dungeon, a new normal trial, and a new deep dungeon, which is to say nothing of all the non-combat casual content. Seems pretty silly to say all of that is an afterthought.

[hydralus]

Not really. If they released OC with no raid, it would just be an incomplete field ops. I think everyone was expecting there to be a raid at the end and there would have been an outcry if there was nothing. They know how popular CLL was, with BSF. It beggars belief they didn't repeat that.

You're probably right actually, I've got no argument against that. Still, saying there's no point without a raid at the end is pretty reductive.

[Volgia]

If anything this game needs more hardcore PvE content. Like a hard version of the leveling dungeons and experts, a hard version of the 24 man dungeons, etcera.

Hardcore raiders share "Normal casual mode" with everything in this game except Ultimate and Chaotic, the moment they do anything that's specifically hardcore it gets them the stink eye so here we are living in our best slop era.

[XtremePrime]

Variant dungeons are some of my favorite content in the game. I'm holding real hope we'll get one which would be casual fun! They packed 7.4 and 7.5 so much with stuff like Blue Mage, Beastmaster, and the promised Variant Dungeon though...
Meanwhile I hope they get to show us something good next week regarding the Deep Dungeon, because if it's just PotD 4 it'll be really sad

[TalithaSolarien]

They just released an entire zone that is 99% casual combat content. Next patch they're adding a new alliance raid, a new dungeon, a new normal trial, and a new deep dungeon, which is to say nothing of all the non-combat casual content. Seems pretty silly to say all of that is an afterthought.

A combat zone that is utterly useless for casual players after you collected your Atmas (Phantom Jobs are absolutely useless unless you want to try FT, which is currently only organized by some Discords and mostly are only reclears).
An Alliance Raid which you only run once per week for the coin, a new dungeon only relevant once per patch, a new trial without any rewards which you run only once per patch and a new deep dungeon which (if they continue the trend from Orthos) wont't be casual content easier.

The dev team really has (for quite some time) problems designing new interesting casual content that is actually worthwhile doing.

[Volgia]

A combat zone that is utterly useless for casual players after you collected your Atmas (Phantom Jobs are absolutely useless unless you want to try FT, which is currently only organized by some Discords and mostly are only reclears).
An Alliance Raid which you only run once per week for the coin, a new dungeon only relevant once per patch, a new trial without any rewards which you run only once per patch and a new deep dungeon which (if they continue the trend from Orthos) wont't be casual content easier.

The dev team really has (for quite some time) problems designing new interesting casual content that is actually worthwhile doing.

Can you give an example of an interesting piece of casual content you would like or feel like it's worthwhile doing?

[AntoniusQuil]

Can you give an example of an interesting piece of casual content you would like or feel like it's worthwhile doing?

Normal Bozjan raids were exactly that for me. Fun and nice encounters, part of relic farm, some really cool glams and at the top of that they provided some really nice story content (although in that aspect I’m biased as I really liked FFXII)

[AntoniusQuil]

No, we don't need more casual content when like 95% of content is already for casual players.

What we really need is true middle ground content when we haven't got no middle ground content since patch 4.5 when The Orbonne Monastery alliance raid got added to the game (which was by far the best allaince raid ever made but sadly it got ruined by massive nerf that made it so easy that all fun disappeared completely from it) and all normal raids and normal allaince raids after 4.5 have being simply way too easy.

NOTE: There is point saying "just do extreme trials, savage raids, ultame raids and chaotic allaince raid" to me when i simply refuse to do them because i'm unable to do everything 100% perfectly (Job rotation, mechanics and etc.) and i got extremely bad experience back in 2.0 when i tried to do The Coils of Bahamut that i started to fear doing any of extreme trials, savage raids, ultame raids and chaotic allaince raid content.

I don't care about field operations when they requires being in party to do, which is impossible for me when no one wants me in their party and Occult Crescent is impossible to do anyway when FATE bosses dies so fast that like 99.99% of time when i get in the FATE area the boss is already dead and i don't get any rewards and Knowledge exp from it.
And only way i can increase my knowledge level in Occult Crescent currently is spend massive amount of time killing normal enemies, so my best option is simply skip Occult Crescent completely, just like i did with Eureka and Bozja.

When it comes to leveling in Occult Crescent you don’t need to do fates, you can just do critical encounters and in their case you can either skip joining the party completely if you want to just heal yourself from aoe damage or you can join one of the parties formed at the spot simply by saying lfg at the encounter spot.

[Kohashi]

Where’s the lie tho?

- savage tier which I see majority of savage riders being really happy with

- new ultimate

- new chaotic raid - which is a completely new savage mode

- and now forked tower.

Meanwhile casual players got only standard stuff like normal tier raids and alliance raids.

Who's ALT are you..lol...

FATES, crafting, OC, EX, new dungeons, new alliance raid, society quests, maps, elite marks (Hunts), Pvp adjustments, class quests, Normal Raid series, Side quests, UR, sitting AFK in Limsa 99% of the time... yet you dare to talk about savage that is released once every 10 months.

The absolute audacity to even bring savage into discussion and make this a "casual" vs "hardcore" argument. God forbid you try "hardcore" content instead of spamming forums with nonsense.

Oh no, people are having fun, we cannot have that now, can we?

[Valence]

I bet if they didn't release forked tower at all nobody would have anything to complain about, but now that it's there, suddenly "the only point of engaging with OC is to do forked tower". Nope, some people legitimately just enjoy playing.

It's not like there has been countless threads about fate scaling, the fate/CE train that has no brakes, the rng atmas, the silver/gold currency imbalances, the monsters on the map that do nothing and the lack of threat, the lack of story, how phantoms compare to logograms and lost actions, etc.