Where’s the lie tho?
- savage tier which I see majority of savage riders being really happy with
- new ultimate
- new chaotic raid - which is a completely new savage mode
- and now forked tower.
Meanwhile casual players got only standard stuff like normal tier raids and alliance raids.

1. Someone can be happy with the tier irrespective of whether they think they are "hardcore" or not.Where’s the lie tho?
- savage tier which I see majority of savage riders being really happy with
- new ultimate
- new chaotic raid - which is a completely new savage mode
- and now forked tower.
Meanwhile casual players got only standard stuff like normal tier raids and alliance raids.
2. Ultimate(s) have existed since SB so nothing new here.. also FRU released like 8 months ago
3. Chaotic is spammed in PF by people of varying raiding backgrounds. Chaotic = Savage is hilariously reductive.
4. My Forked Tower reclears are full of people who don't do savage or ultimates.
Casuals can do a lot of things.. whether they choose to or not is entirely up to them. Disinterest in x for reasons y isn't the same thing as "there's no content for us casuals."
Who's ALT are you..lol...Where’s the lie tho?
- savage tier which I see majority of savage riders being really happy with
- new ultimate
- new chaotic raid - which is a completely new savage mode
- and now forked tower.
Meanwhile casual players got only standard stuff like normal tier raids and alliance raids.
FATES, crafting, OC, EX, new dungeons, new alliance raid, society quests, maps, elite marks (Hunts), Pvp adjustments, class quests, Normal Raid series, Side quests, UR, sitting AFK in Limsa 99% of the time... yet you dare to talk about savage that is released once every 10 months.
The absolute audacity to even bring savage into discussion and make this a "casual" vs "hardcore" argument. God forbid you try "hardcore" content instead of spamming forums with nonsense.
Oh no, people are having fun, we cannot have that now, can we?
Not that I disagree in principle with an issue of a savage raid released every 10 months, but I don't really think you should be stating that in the same sentence as arguing half of those items being content, like... literally..Who's ALT are you..lol...
FATES, crafting, OC, EX, new dungeons, new alliance raid, society quests, maps, elite marks (Hunts), Pvp adjustments, class quests, Normal Raid series, Side quests, UR, sitting AFK in Limsa 99% of the time... yet you dare to talk about savage that is released once every 10 months.
The absolute audacity to even bring savage into discussion and make this a "casual" vs "hardcore" argument. God forbid you try "hardcore" content instead of spamming forums with nonsense.
Oh no, people are having fun, we cannot have that now, can we?
PvP adjustments? Do you know *how long* it actually takes for PvP to see any worthwhile adjustments? lol, arguing this is literally the same as calling PvE adjustments content.
New alliance raids that literally don't fit anywhere in their reward structure because they are the same item level as non-augment tomestone gear, also released on an equivalent pathetically long patch cycle..
Society quests and class quests? Are you joking LOL, you do this once, and then forget they even exist, literally.
Elite Marks? 90% of that content is literally Aetheryte camping.
The absolute audacity to even bring half of these into discussion when your follow-up statement is an issue with savage (Not that I disagree), but both of these being present is beyond peak irony. God forbid people actually try to expect quality from a game that has been in service for well over a decade. So yes, people should spam forums with 'nonsense'
Oh no, people are trying to give developers feedback (even if I disagree with it), we cannot have that now, can we?
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