How would you *fix* battle content?

[Hanzz96]

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Notice how they said SELF HEALS and MAYBE some mitigation and you immediately defaulted to “we need all the mitigation that we have (that square explicitly balances around that much mitigation anyway so it’s a moot point)”

People want self heals gone, you don’t need 4 benedictions on a 25 second CD in AOE to survive powder mark

No one has 4 benedictions on a 25 second cooldown you are absoutley making stuff up. Even then its only in adds in dungeons and the healers should be using aoe instead of cure boting anyway.

The tank with the most self heals is WAR and its designed that way because they have the worst invuln in the game that they WILL die from if the healer isnt on point and often they are not. They also have less mitigation since thrill of battle is extra health and not a mit (it sucks screw thrill) so yes WAR needs its healing unless they want to die though no fault of their own because invuln left them at 1hp and the healers are spamming glare.

[Supersnow845]

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No one has 4 benedictions on a 25 second cooldown you are absoutley making stuff up. Even then its only in adds in dungeons and the healers should be using aoe instead of cure boting anyway.

The tank with the most self heals is WAR and its designed that way because they have the worst invuln in the game that they WILL die from if the healer isnt on point and often they are not. They also have less mitigation since thrill of battle is extra health and not a mit (it sucks screw thrill)

Somehow you made 3 statements and all are wrong

-in AOE every GCD under bloodwhetting is a benediction
-WAR has the best invuln in the game
-thrill is a mitigation, unless you want to consider a 20% shield as “not mitigation”

[Hanzz96]

Somehow you made 3 statements and all are wrong

-in AOE every GCD under bloodwhetting is a benediction
-WAR has the best invuln in the game
-thrill is a mitigation, unless you want to consider a 20% shield as “not mitigation”

Lets address this because i'm not wrong.

1. Holmgang is the best and worst invuln in the game. You get to use it more which makes it good. But it means you cant go below 1 health so when it ends you are on one health. If the healer isn't on point they will die which is why they have self healing.

2. Thrill is not mitigation. It is extra health and a heal for that health. Its not even a shield. Please learn the difference between shield and mitigation

3. Once again only in aoe and you should be using damaging abilities instead of cure botting

[Supersnow845]

Lets address this because i'm not wrong.

1. Holmgang is the best and worst invuln in the game. You get to use it more which makes it good. But it means you cant go below 1 health so when it ends you are on one health. If the healer isn't on point they will die which is why they have self healing.

2. Trill is not mitigation. It is extra health. There is a difference. Please learn the difference between shield and mitigation

3. Once again only in aoe and you should be using damaging abilities instead of cure botting

1) we have so much healing that “you end the invuln on one hp (which you don’t because WAR has self healing)” is completely meaningless as a downside. Nobody wants hallowed over holmgang

2) there is a difference between percentage mitigation and shields but both are mitigation, saying thrill isn’t mitigation is wrong (unless you want to tell SCH’s that spreadlo isn’t a mitigation)

3) I am using damaging abilities, I don’t need you doing the healing for me. How hard is that to understand

Your logic isn’t even consistent, you act like WAR’s self healing is meaningless to help them overcome holmgang but it being overpowered in casual content is also meaningless because the healer should be doing damage (which they already are). So what content is this self healing designed for……..soloing the boss from 95% HP, absolutely galaxy brain design

[Hanzz96]

1) we have so much healing that “you end the invuln on one hp (which you don’t because WAR has self healing)” is completely meaningless as a downside. Nobody wants hallowed over holmgang

2) there is a difference between percentage mitigation and shields but both are mitigation, saying thrill isn’t mitigation is wrong (unless you want to tell SCH’s that spreadlo isn’t a mitigation)

3) I am using damaging abilities, I don’t need you doing the healing for me. How hard is that to understand

Your logic isn’t even consistent, you act like WAR’s self healing is meaningless to help them overcome holmgang but it being overpowered in casual content is also meaningless because the healer should be doing damage (which they already are). So what content is this self healing designed for……..soloing the boss from 95% HP, absolutely galaxy brain design

What I'm trying to say to you the person who doesn't even do the content I am talking about yet has an opinion is thag if we take away WAR's self healing it will make holmgang as deadly as old Living Dead on DRK if the healer doesn't save them before the next auto.

Next spreadlo isnt a mit its a shield once again different I believe Xeems has a video on the difference if you don't get it.

Next who care if they heal in aoe because yeah you should be damaging. You are the one with inconsistent logic. You are saying they are overpowered in aoe because of 25 second bene but that isn't relevant when it comes to soloing a boss. You want all self heals removed and once again it can't be because as mentioned like WAR some jobs rely on self heals to stay alive after invuln for example

[Supersnow845]

What I'm trying to say to you the person who doesn't even do the content I am talking about yet has an opinion is thag if we take away WAR's self healing it will make holmgang as deadly as old Living Dead on DRK if the healer doesn't save them before the next auto.

Next spreadlo isnt a mit its a shield once again different I believe Xeems has a video on the difference if you don't get it.

Next who care if they heal in aoe because yeah you should be damaging. You are the one with inconsistent logic. You are saying they are overpowered in aoe because of 25 second bene but that isn't relevant when it comes to soloing a boss. You want all self heals removed and once again it can't be because as mentioned like WAR some jobs rely on self heals to stay alive after invuln for example

I’m very familiar with savage sweetie, pulling the “you don’t even do savage” card doesn’t lend credence to your arguments.

“If you don’t have these self heals then using holmgang becomes dangerous”

Yeah it’s not like we don’t have HEALERS or anything. If you are so terrified that you may die to a lazy healer may I suggest a single player game, there is a veritable wealth of them

A shield is a mitigation, it’s just not a percentage mitigation, that doesn’t make it not a mitigation, that video explains that if you’d like to watch it

For someone who mentions other people apparently don’t do content you have literally no idea how healers work. “You should be doing damage” like honey do you know what an oGCD heal is, I’m drowning in them, I can heal you and do damage as the same time, it’s not a gigabrain play to do. And saying “a heal is too strong in single target and worse in AOE” is not bad logic, tank self heals are strong enough in single target to solo bosses, they just rise to hilariously overpowered levels when they add AOE scaling.

[Saraide]

Lets address this because i'm not wrong.

1. Holmgang is the best and worst invuln in the game. You get to use it more which makes it good. But it means you cant go below 1 health so when it ends you are on one health. If the healer isn't on point they will die which is why they have self healing.

2. Trill is not mitigation. It is extra health. There is a difference. Please learn the difference between shield and mitigation

3. Once again only in aoe and you should be using damaging abilities instead of cure botting

Getting to use it more often makes it the best. That's what makes it not the worst.

Shields are mitigation. Damage reduction is mitigation. They are two different types of mitigation.

BW shouldnt be 4 instant full heals in aoe situations either. That's what makes playing healer in normal content so boring.

[Hanzz96]

Getting to use it more often makes it the best. That's what makes it not the worst.

Shields are mitigation. Damage reduction is mitigation. They are two different types of mitigation.

BW shouldnt be 4 instant full heals in aoe situations either. That's what makes playing healer in normal content so boring.

Then we'll have the issue of tanks dying because of lazy healers which happens. Honestly people like to complain if people here spent as much time doing content as they do complaing they wouldn't be moaning about a content drought

[Saraide]

Then we'll have the issue of tanks dying because of lazy healers which happens. Honestly people like to complain if people here spent as much time doing content as they do complaing they wouldn't be moaning about a content drought

I've had bad tanks in dungeons so I think we should fully remove all aggro (meaning enemies can only attack tanks), tank actions should be removed to only have one attack button so they cant mess up and all their other buttons should be changed to more self heals, more mitigation and more invulns

Tanks really want this game to be a solo experience, dont they.