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    The biggest thing I noticed when I tried wow again after many years its just how many addons they built into the game, I was used to having to install a large amount of mods for the UI and found the functionality built in.
    It's like as if SE went through all the QOL plugins for FF14 and implemented them.
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    no clue about wow but it sounds good.

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    without fun jobs none of the content is fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    no clue about wow but it sounds good.

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    Jump on the free trial :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Really tired of hearing the “you’re just burned out” take. Sometimes the game has just become stale—it doesn’t mean I’m burned out. It means I’ve noticed the systems aren’t evolving, and the fun is getting buried under dated design choices.
    let's try something okay? I see you have joined in 2013 and while it doesn't mean you have been playing non stop for 12 years.. how about this. Play WoW for 5 and then come back and tell me all about those flaws and how the game is dying and how much better X game is.

    Deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    let's try something okay? I see you have joined in 2013 and while it doesn't mean you have been playing non stop for 12 years.. how about this. Play WoW for 5 and then come back and tell me all about those flaws and how the game is dying and how much better X game is.

    Deal?
    I played FFXI for 14 years—the only reason I quit was because the game stopped being fun. If XIV added something genuinely new, interesting, unique, or actually fixed core issues, I’d choose it over WoW in a heartbeat. How does that equal burnout? That’s not fatigue—it’s disappointment. In WoW, every corner I turn there’s something new—something different to do. It constantly feels like there’s variety, like the world is alive and waiting, instead of just sending me down the same hallway in a slightly different skin.

    So if I take a break for five years and come back—XIV is going to be completely different? Doubt it. It'll have more story, maybe a new job or two, but the core systems, the UI, the way the world functions? Probably still the same. That’s not growth—it’s just more of the same.

    And just to be clear—yes, aside from a single six-month break due to personal reasons at the end of A Realm Reborn, I’ve been subbed continuously. I’ve stuck with XIV through it all, so this isn’t coming from someone who dipped in and out. I’ve given it the time—it just hasn’t evolved with it.
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    Last edited by Masekase_Hurricane; 07-10-2025 at 11:09 PM.

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    The duality of "play other games" and "stop having fun playing other games" in this community is amazing.
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    I quit WoW years ago, and I will rather stop playing MMOs than to return to that sh*tshow. That's just me, of course.
    But if you really think the grass is greener over there, check out their forums. Complaints over complaints over complaints. Lead dev is incompetent, story is garbage, setting sucks, mythic+ is the worst thing ever invented, and so on. Sounds familiar?
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    While I don't consider your list to even touch upon the quality of life FFXIV needs, you are right that SE doesn't focus on Quality of Life hardly at all.

    There is hardly any development on anything that isn't the upcoming patch or expansion. They mostly leave old features, systems and patches to wither. Sometimes they fix about 5 quality of life issues that people have complained about for 10 years, but it's not even close to enough. And sometimes improvements aren't good enough either.

    Even if feedback is taken into account for new systems, it's not necessarily for past systems, thus the majority of systems in the game continue to have the problems that were addressed in later expansions.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    But if you really think the grass is greener over there, check out their forums. Complaints over complaints over complaints. Lead dev is incompetent, story is garbage, setting sucks, mythic+ is the worst thing ever invented, and so on. Sounds familiar?
    i just went to the general discussion forums and I also follow the WoW subreddit and, yeah there may be one or two compaint threads and its not all rainbows, but it really isn't anything compared to here or the ffxiv discussion subreddits. It's almost as if you are exaggerating because "WoW bad, FFXIV good" or something.

    And you said it yourself, you left years ago. DF and TWW put WoW in a much better place than it was.

    But again, gotta have that duality of "Play other games!" and "stop having fun playing other games!" lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    I quit WoW years ago, and I will rather stop playing MMOs than to return to that sh*tshow. That's just me, of course.
    But if you really think the grass is greener over there, check out their forums. Complaints over complaints over complaints. Lead dev is incompetent, story is garbage, setting sucks, mythic+ is the worst thing ever invented, and so on. Sounds familiar?
    This isn’t a “WoW is better than XIV” post.
    It’s a “please, for fk’s sake, improve XIV so I can keep sticking with it”** post.
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