Finally tried WoW

[Reimmi]

let's try something okay? I see you have joined in 2013 and while it doesn't mean you have been playing non stop for 12 years.. how about this. Play WoW for 5 and then come back and tell me all about those flaws and how the game is dying and how much better X game is.

Deal?

Okay
I've played wow for 20 years
I've played ff14 for 7
FF14 has gotten old faster than wow because wow has evolved and changed its systems constantly
Sorry man. square needs to do something innovative or risk this games stagnate slow death

I enjoy both but i definitely play wow more these days since they fixed their issues after shadowlands, the game is doing amazing and i wish square enix would try harder.

[NightHour]

While some of the points you mention would be nice to have in FF14, it mainly signals that you are extremely burned out of FF14, which is okay. It's nice to go and play other games. Many games have features that I would like to see in FF14, but I also know they might not be easily implemented or fit well with the game.

It's natural that after playing for so long, you see all of the imperfections and many things that can be improved. I am sure that you will see the same things after you have played WoW for long enough. Each game has its shortcomings, and none is perfect.

It would be nice, however, for SE to look around and improve/adopt/innovate in the game.

While I do not agree with many of the complaints made in the forums, ultimately, they do push SE to stop their current slop and feel pressured again to step up their game.

Being burnt out means you're overwhelmed with stuff to do.


You can't be burnt out of something if that something gives you nothing to do.



People are bored, not burnt out.

[ArmaDragkun]

Being burnt out means you're overwhelmed with stuff to do.


You can't be burnt out of something if that something gives you nothing to do.



People are bored, not burnt out.

I dunno I got burnt out of WoW after playing for many years although for me it was a moment of "Why the hell am I logging in?" Sure there are dungeons to run ect but at the end of the day it became a job. Doing the dungeons pushing keys getting score. All for what? Some 15 year old to quote that my class isn't "meta" right now so get refused from a dungeon I've run 100 times before?

Wouldn't say I was overwhelmed with stuff to do.

[Striker44]

Being burnt out means you're overwhelmed with stuff to do.


You can't be burnt out of something if that something gives you nothing to do.



People are bored, not burnt out.

That's...not at all what being burnt out means. You can have exactly the right amount of stuff to do, but do it for long enough or intensively enough, and you'll likely experience burnout. I remember back in my WoW days, our guild's little raid group decided to go for a Heroic mount. We had only done "normal" raiding up to that point, so we did the raid on Normal, practiced, and gradually prog'd the Heroic version. It was a ton of fun, and we loved when we finally completed the Heroic raid...and then promptly put our raid group on hiatus for a couple months because we were burned out for a while even though there were still other raids (Heroic versions) we had never tried. Same with a different guild I had been in that loved World PvP...it took us several weeks, but we finally organized a server group that killed all 4 of the other faction's leaders (back before "phasing" screwed that up)...and yep, despite having a blast, we put the PvP on hold for a bit after we accomplished that because we were burned out.

FFXIV has a ton of stuff to do. In true MMO fashion, though, a fair amount of that involves doing the same stuff repeatedly, whether it be raiding, PvP seasons, etc.. That can (and will) absolutely burn someone out over time. (Random side note - the average American will hold ~12 jobs over their working career, changing jobs about every 3-4 years. It's often not changing careers, just employers, because even without being "overwhelmed", humans have a natural desire to explore new things. Do the same thing (or play the same game) for long enough, and you'll likely get burnt out for a time no matter what.

[Hallarem]

I see the good ol' "You're just burned out, go play other games" gaslighting is live and kicking still. It's not like the game has grinded to a halt and is the graveyard of innovation. Where they try absolutely nothing to give you something new down to recycled music. Most MMO's offer new features and fixes in their new expansions.
With FFXIV it's a slideshow of "Oh look at the new colored tapestry the same shit is in, hope you enjoy fates with the same music over and over."

10 year plan my ass, nice try Yoshi P. It's looking more like a 10-yen savings plan at the moment. CANT WAIT FOR THE REMAKES ROLLING IN and not to buy them.

[CapaxInfiniti]

I see the good ol' "You're just burned out, go play other games" gaslighting is live and kicking still. It's not like the game has grinded to a halt and is the graveyard of innovation. Where they try absolutely nothing to give you something new down to recycled music. Most MMO's offer new features and fixes in their new expansions.
With FFXIV it's a slideshow of "Oh look at the new colored tapestry the same shit is in, hope you enjoy fates with the same music over and over."

10 year plan my ass, nice try Yoshi P. It's looking more like a 10-yen savings plan at the moment. CANT WAIT FOR THE REMAKES ROLLING IN and not to buy them.

Let's be honest.
When 8.0 hits and there's no meaningful changes in sight, Yoshi will just cry crocodile tears on stream and the white knights will rush to defend any criticism at all about how once again we were lied to, like it's not an increasingly occurring thing.
At least after 8.0 we can all actually accept that Yoshi won't ever change and neither will this game under him. If he's canned, then we can have hopium again. If he stays, then we can have closure that XIV is a foregone conclusion when we unsub.

It's all about closure, really.

[NaoSen]

The biggest thing I noticed when I tried wow again after many years its just how many addons they built into the game, I was used to having to install a large amount of mods for the UI and found the functionality built in.
It's like as if SE went through all the QOL plugins for FF14 and implemented them.

[Asari5]

no clue about wow but it sounds good.

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[Masekase_Hurricane]

no clue about wow but it sounds good.

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Jump on the free trial :P