Post your Grand Company Weapons!

[Starlord]

Mods, please change name of thread to "Post your wall of text about min/maxing"

Srsly though, stop posting about min/max stuff and go grind Toko-Rak like the rest of us so you can post some gear screenshots.

I know like seriously.... PICTURES OF GRAND COMPANY WEAPONS ( or GC gear)... NOT THIS MIN/MAX STUFF!!! :/

[Frein]

I never played WoW for any reasonable amount of time so I will not address it. That makes 2 exceptions..woo.

How many MMO examples do you need? How about other genres?

If you use a crit dmg/crit rate build on DRG for example, it will give you much different results than using it on..idk..WAR or ARC. Our skills are designed with inflated crit rates. Our traits help our crit as well.

Yes, it's marginally different. Steel Cyclone and Godsbane, the two main WAR WS, also have huge crit rate buffs, by the way.

Crit may be hard to raise but on a DRG a few percentage points may be enough to maximize our crit potential.

Why? How? DRG doesn't get anything extra out of a crit. Just the same extra damage as everyone else.

It really depends to what degree you can be successful raising both crit dmg and crit rate. Since the two have not been tested together, we really can't be sure of the possibilities...or how well they work in tandem parsed against something else. Assumptions are assumptions. I dont see why you are so against testing something first...its almost as if you are afraid of seeing your assumptions as incorrect.

I don't understand how you can be so blind to the obvious. If +crit rate has a minimal effect on your crit rate, why would it suddenly be significantly better just because your crit damage is higher? Is it more beneficial to crit more often when the crits are strong as opposed to weak? Yes, but we know how strong those crits are and can from that derive a good idea of how much damage adding crit rate gives. And it's not much.

It is quite the same thing. Both hydrogen and oxygen are entirely identifiable and quantifiable elements. You can find all of their exact details in a periodic table. Yet combining them yields a compound that is greater than the sum of its parts. Water isn't even an element, but a combination of elements, otherwise known as a compound.

Yes, I shouldn't have called it an element. My point still stands, this is not chemistry where 1+1=???. You cannot calculate the properties of water from the properties of hydrogen and oxygen. You can calculate your crit DPS from the properties of your crit rate and crit potency.

But I digress. Back to the larger point, you can't calculate the exact anything, because no one knows the exact dmg calculation and how it precisely works. No tester knows this, you can ask any of them and they will shrug their shoulders and say "all we know is dmg is the biggest influence".

We know a lot more than that.

I fail to see what is so unreasonable about testing anything before making a claim to its validity. You seem more interested in holding onto your assumptions than in discovering truth. Of course no one likes being proven wrong, which is likely why a status quo is extremely hard to change. In any case look at the preliminary parse results so far, and I think we can agree that certain assumptions may not hold water anymore.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. I don't need to test its duckness to know that it's, indeed, a duck.

[Starlord]

How many MMO examples do you need? How about other genres?


Yes, it's marginally different. Steel Cyclone and Godsbane, the two main WAR WS, also have a huge crit rate buffs, by the way.


Why? How? DRG doesn't get anything extra out of a crit. Just the same extra damage as everyone else.


I don't understand how you can be so blind to the obvious. If +crit rate has a minimal effect on your crit rate, why would it suddenly be significantly better just because your crit damage is higher? Is it more beneficial to crit more often when the crits are strong as opposed to weak? Yes, but we know how strong those crits are and can from that derive a good idea of how much damage adding crit rate gives. And it's not much.


Yes, I shouldn't have called it an element. My point still stands, this is not chemistry where 1+1=???. You cannot calculate the properties of water from the properties of hydrogen and oxygen. You can calculate your crit DPS from the properties of your crit rate and crit potency.

We know a lot more than that.


If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. I don't need to test its duckness to know that it's a duck.

Okay can you stop this now... :/ PICTURE ORNY!!!

[Frein]

Okay can you stop this now... :/ PICTURE ORNY!!!

Sorry, but I'm not in the habbit of dropping a debate until I find myself repeating the same points too much.

As far as your pictures go, this isn't really the correct forum for it. We have the media forum for this kind of things.

[Irzibe]

Bahahaha everyone in this thread is pathetic except the OP. Use whatever the fuck you want man, I'm sure you'll still pwn either way. Min/Max noobs need to get a life and worry about their own equips instead of trying to decide how anyone should play. Also, parse or gtfo with your theorycraft. But in all seriousness, how brainless do you have to be to call anything bar "the best" as "useless". There's more than one viable way to do things, even if its not max efficiency. I'd theorycraft about why its not as inferior as ppl think, but i'd rather not. Test it yourself, or be quiet and keep to yourself I say.

He's not going to be gimp because he's not using the best weapon in the game. Do I really need to explain this? Everyone here is so brain dead.

This is the first time ever I agree with Lux. ;o

[Starlord]

Sorry, but I'm not in the habbit of dropping a debate until I find myself repeating the same points too much.

As far as your pictures go, this isn't really the correct forum for it. We have the media forum for this kind of things.

Its a Thread about Posting your Grand Company Weapons/Gear Pictures.. its def.. the RIGHT place for it..

Edit: What your posting is Irrelevant to this thread.. if you want to make a thread about Min/Maxing Make your own thread please.. Thank you.

[Frein]

Its a Thread about Posting your Grand Company Weapons/Gear Pictures.. its def.. the RIGHT place for it..

No, this is the right forum for it.

[Starlord]

No, this is the right forum for it.

I made a THREAD about this.. so it shouldn't be derailed as such Thank you

[Fingerbox]

No, this is the right forum for it.

So players should not discuss classes or jobs here either because we have a forum for that?
We shouldn't discuss quests, because there is a forum for that.
We shouldn't discuss guildleves because there's a forum for that.
We shouldn't discuss synthing, gathering, or any items, because there's a forum for that.
etc. etc. untill... we shouldn't discuss anything that falls into the wide catagory of "other"... because there's a forum for that.

[Deltara]

Please retitle this thread to Stat Comparisons for GC Weapons and make a new thread for the pictures in the media forum. Please, please, please.

And don't forget to quote and move the taru with the lance and the cool-looking shield.