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  1. #41
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    Neclord Drakan
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    You cannot compare PF to the FT entry method my guy. While I understand that you are angry, these two systems were designed completely differently.
    Great response. Suggest that I am experiencing anger and just waive any notion that players can choose to be courteous when faced with a glowing platform on that basis. This forum never ceases to deliver.

    There's a reason that breakfast cereals with cartoon animals as their brand's mascot are marketed primarily to children.
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  2. #42
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Least there’s less likely to be that awkward moment where there’s like 48 people in Forked Tower…in an instance of 50/72 people lol. I think? I’ve had a couple times where everyone ended up doing FT and there was only like 3 people left doing fates etc lol.
    To be fair they are the best instances to farm CE’s because low number CE’s scale the best

    And you get the support fate to top it off. The one good thing about forked support fate is it gives sanguinite unlike tristitia which didn’t give eureka fragments
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  3. #43
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    Raim Surion
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    Sounds like they can do things when people complain. Just make all the changes.
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  4. #44
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    Casuals will have the privilege of zoning into an instance that was created exclusively for discord premade use due to fix no.5. Just in time to help them kill the support fate outside for a pittance of sanguinite.
    The developing meta is just to skip the puzzle that spawns and requires the support FATE, so unless SE makes it mandatory, you will get no sanguinite and you will be happy.
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  5. #45
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    There is no thing as sniping, will try and queue in doing like 50 offerings when I see an opening first of all to see the instance and secondly, to learning how to do it the hard way and everyone should do it like that, it is the only way you can get the devs to do something about it all, it hinders progression otherwise and that is a fact.

    Leave savage and ultimate gear, to actual savage and ultimate raids, this here need to be way more mainstream, tough is nice, but a few able to make sure it goes right as the final option.
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  6. #46
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The developing meta is just to skip the puzzle that spawns and requires the support FATE, so unless SE makes it mandatory, you will get no sanguinite and you will be happy.
    If they make only a single other change to forked after what they are adding tomorrow stopping this new stupid meta of intentionally skipping the support fate has got to be stopped.

    The support fate exists specifically because robbing an instance of 48 players puts those left at a disadvantage, the support fate is compensation for that. It’s an integral part of BA and BA forces you to do it

    Spending 2 hours in an intentionally hamstrung instance for the forked group to go “yeah nah we don’t need sanguinite so you don’t get any either” is just genuinely shockingly awful design and I say that as a BA host veteran who mostly supports the discords
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  7. #47
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    Kali Zeruel
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    Faerie
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    Alright Square Enix I'll tell you how to fix Occult Crescent and get people to do Forked Tower, since you clearly don't know how to learn lessons from past content of this type.

    1) remove the raise limit

    2) remove thrice come ruin

    3) remove de-leveling upon death

    4) remove the super traps that kill more than just the person who steps on them

    5) remove the Cipher system entirely

    There. If you want unorganized players in the instance to do FT organically, which is clearly your intent, that's what you'll have to do.
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  8. #48
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    Adam Brazenmutt
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    Gilgamesh
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    Is the War on Discord over? Or are we in the "No Casual left Behind" era?
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  9. #49
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    Poutine Smasher
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    Sargatanas
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    So as I thought. Basically, they are transforming it into pre-made only, discord only content and everyone else can sit and twist. Good to know. I am never entering OC again.
    I mean, if you cant even read and understand what's being discussed in this thread, how do you expect to pf up and use shout chat to coordinate 48 effectively.

    You don't even do current extreme trials, this is way harder than that. Its not a wipe and pull again situation, its a wipe and try again in 60 minutes situation.

    This is simply not content for casuals. Its content for people who are willing to try something hard and do the actual effort.
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  11. #50
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post
    Alright Square Enix I'll tell you how to fix Occult Crescent and get people to do Forked Tower, since you clearly don't know how to learn lessons from past content of this type.

    1) remove the raise limit

    2) remove thrice come ruin

    3) remove de-leveling upon death

    4) remove the super traps that kill more than just the person who steps on them

    5) remove the Cipher system entirely

    There. If you want unorganized players in the instance to do FT organically, which is clearly your intent, that's what you'll have to do.
    Would also need to remove DPS checks because people cant press button, even in certain discord clear groups
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