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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Hey...

    They are learning...

    Let's just hope next time they elect to design the system properly in the first place instead of taking a regressive path.
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Hey...

    They are learning...

    Let's just hope next time they elect to design the system properly in the first place instead of taking a regressive path.
    If they do it poorly to start with, they get to enjoy the praise when they change it to be less bad.
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    Katherine Thorn
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    Good on them for actually breaking the mold! I hope this can become a more regular thing and that they deploy fixes in between patches instead of forcing players to wait for the arbitrary schedule.
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    DynnDiablos's Avatar
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    Shai Rae
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    So, is this them pretty much catering to the hardcore players completely and leaving randoms in the dust, or is this making it so folks can all join premades easier? Trying to see if they are basically telling casuals to stay the F out of OC and Forked Tower and this is now solely for premade discord groups.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    So, is this them pretty much catering to the hardcore players completely and leaving randoms in the dust, or is this making it so folks can all join premades easier? Trying to see if they are basically telling casuals to stay the F out of OC and Forked Tower and this is now solely for premade discord groups.
    Or people will actually start progging forked tower through PARTY FINDER, you know, RANDOMS playing with RANDOMS.
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    Shai Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    Or people will actually start progging forked tower through PARTY FINDER, you know, RANDOMS playing with RANDOMS.
    That is what I was ASKING. Do you feel CAPITALIZING for emphasis makes you some big, bad b--ch?
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

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    Minali Flo'uf
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    So, is this them pretty much catering to the hardcore players completely and leaving randoms in the dust, or is this making it so folks can all join premades easier? Trying to see if they are basically telling casuals to stay the F out of OC and Forked Tower and this is now solely for premade discord groups.
    Well, with 7.3 they also want to make sure entering the tower doesn't overlap with a CE being active, so there is a chance people might give it a try more spontaenously. But yeah, considering people actually call it "sniping" when someone just tries to Do The Thing and doesn't have a schedule reliable enough to sign up at some discord run, I am certainly hesitant of trying to get in. I don't want to get flamed into oblivion, killed with tank busters or whatever just because my health issues makes it really hard to sign up to stuff. I did this once for a newbie BA run and almost had to cancel and ruin stuff for everyone else.
    On the other hand, if premade groups can get in more reliably and avoid randoms signing up with that new system, maybe going on spontaenously is going to be more inviting again. When everyone can stay in their "lane" so to speak.

    Edit: Yes, PF exists, and I guess I'll have to try this, but getting 24 people for Chaotic to stay in a group long enough for it to fill up was already hard a few days after its release. So, sorry if I might be a bit sceptical of how well this is going to work with twice the number of people. Week 1 or 2 after the changes maybe but afterwards...?
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    Last edited by Minali; 07-02-2025 at 09:15 PM.

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    Shai Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minali View Post
    Well, with 7.3 they also want to make sure entering the tower doesn't overlap with a CE being active, so there is a chance people might give it a try more spontaenously. But yeah, considering people actually call it "sniping" when someone just tries to Do The Thing and doesn't have a schedule reliable enough to sign up at some discord run, I am certainly hesitant of trying to get in. I don't want to get flamed into oblivion, killed with tank busters or whatever just because my health issues makes it really hard to sign up to stuff. I did this once for a newbie BA run and almost had to cancel and ruin stuff for everyone else.
    On the other hand, if premade groups can get in more reliably and avoid randoms signing up with that new system, maybe going on spontaenously is going to be more inviting again. When everyone can stay in their "lane" so to speak.

    Edit: Yes, PF exists, and I guess I'll have to try this, but getting 24 people for Chaotic to stay in a group long enough for it to fill up was already hard a few days after its release. So, sorry if I might be a bit sceptical of how well this is going to work with twice the number of people. Week 1 or 2 after the changes maybe but afterwards...?
    So as I thought. Basically, they are transforming it into pre-made only, discord only content and everyone else can sit and twist. Good to know. I am never entering OC again.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

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    Minali Flo'uf
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    So as I thought. Basically, they are transforming it into pre-made only, discord only content and everyone else can sit and twist. Good to know. I am never entering OC again.
    I need to stress that this is just me voicing concerns and my own grim predictions. I have no clue if this is actually going to turn out this way. Maybe there are also going to be a lot of PF parties with 24 or 38 players or so queueing anyway and counting on randoms to join? Which would give me more opportunities, same as e.g. people with kids, wonky work shifts etc. It's really hard to say how things might turn out at the moment.

    @Saraide: Being able to join a discord and being able to join an organized group at (date) and (time) with specific roles set etc. and then be there on time and all are two very different kind of things. You equating both like this tells me you never had any irl issues interfering with your gaming. Good for you! But not everyone is in this position.
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    Last edited by Minali; 07-02-2025 at 09:31 PM.

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    Player AvoSturmfaust's Avatar
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    Jin Sohan
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    So as I thought. Basically, they are transforming it into pre-made only, discord only content and everyone else can sit and twist. Good to know. I am never entering OC again.
    Not they dont, you literally can open a PF, build the Group and go in, no "pre made discord only group" and sorry aber if its too much to open a Party in the Partyfinder then idk
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