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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko View Post
    Regarding some of the "this takes no skill" responses, like others have said, this is not that easily performed. I was part of Miko's group and you indeed don't need triple melds, but just a really good spell rotation and timing. Triple melds or whatever certain make this easier, but it is by no means necessary. Also, if people REALLY wanted to push DPS w/o strong melds, you could just all sport those new sanction cudgels and pray you don't die. It's not rocket science, but it's not like they just randomly mashed buttons and won because Garuda gave up after /checking their gear.

    People can think what they want about this being an exploit or whatever; this is everyone's personal choice. However, I think there is something tremendously rewarding about posting a video to a forum and having like a huge chunk of the endgame population on both sides of the world immediately try to copy you within 24 hours. Beyond this, this even got an immediate response from YoshiP (and during Golden Week). That's pretty high praise, even if it's indirect. I'm in a "rival" LS on the same server as Legacy, and I really have no reason to overtly praise them, but seriously guys just give a bit of credit where it's due.
    What piss me off are all those jealous *#+}*}%*# . Because of all th fuckinh crying we will have a warrior nerf and Garuda buff, which will make it harder for the people who kills it regularly and impossible for these stupid %%#%###% that keep crying and never get anything accomplished in game since they are all lvl 12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    What piss me off are all those jealous *#+}*}%*# . Because of all th fuckinh crying we will have a warrior nerf and Garuda buff, which will make it harder for the people who kills it regularly and impossible for these stupid %%#%###% that keep crying and never get anything accomplished in game since they are all lvl 12
    Angry much? Who is jealous? Who are all these lvl 12 people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klive View Post
    Angry much? Who is jealous? Who are all these lvl 12 people?
    People that suck at playing and can't accomplish anything, thus crying on forums because of a video that have lots of strategy and equip stack which 0.1% have. so, in the end, all the crying will result in one thing only. Won't for sure forbid good ls from killing, but will make it impossible to kill for others. Which include te criers, like in your sig
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    What piss me off are all those jealous *#+}*}%*# . Because of all th fuckinh crying we will have a warrior nerf and Garuda buff, which will make it harder for the people who kills it regularly and impossible for these stupid %%#%###% that keep crying and never get anything accomplished in game since they are all lvl 12

    Exactly as long as someone cry's --- Yoshi P. can't make an achievement- You know they are going to nurf these things untill very player's can do it- yet they will keep nurfing us as players as long as we keep proving him, Hard mode can be defeated in a way he doesn't like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    What piss me off are all those jealous *#+}*}%*# . Because of all th fuckinh crying we will have a warrior nerf and Garuda buff, which will make it harder for the people who kills it regularly and impossible for these stupid %%#%###% that keep crying and never get anything accomplished in game since they are all lvl 12
    Awww your precious WAR going to be nerfed, who cares, Garuda buff bring it on, I am not jelous of anything I just hate the prospect of playing a game with everyone saying "lvl x, y, z class or your a gimp jelous noob who needs to learn to play" I know if I tell my friends planning on starting the game at PS3 realease, they HAVE to lvl either BLM, WAR, ARC, WHM to do anything they will be put off.

    Also for people who say "all I want is to stack DRGs" please tell me where I said that CLASS STACKING CAN GO AND FUCKING DIE I don't care if its DRG stacks, BLM stacks BRD stacks they are ALL bad for the games future.

    And people who say timing and correct rotation = skill correct rotation is saying x member nukes first, Y member nukes next etc etc, and you tell them how long to wait before nuking, I haven't done this, and I will never do it because class stacking makes the game boring for me. I will gladly go without gear than stack classes (in fact I did when DH was released)

    Skill is knowing what to use, when to use it and to change tactics based on whats going on, and melee have to do this all the time with combos, making decisions on the fly, for example in ifrit, does DRG go for max dps using both 3 step combos, while potentially mpking the tank with eruptions, or do they play it safe and only go with combos from the back and side? It all depends how you want to play, and what the current situation requires.

    Whereas this retarded BLM stack, just needs communication and gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enfarious View Post
    So angry, and all because a fight is going to get harder to do, and a job is going to get balanced the way they were both intended to be?
    Come on grow up, stop bitching that you'll have to look into different setups now. Or is it that you won't be able to follow in others footsteps and that's just terrifying for you?
    The biggest problem in this world is people attacking things that are either different(which makes them scared of it), things they're afraid of, or ideas that would bring change(which they're afraid of cause change is scary?)
    Anyone see the pattern?
    They just prove my point that this method requires alot less skill than other methods, and Noir knows they will have to wait for a new stratagy to come out, loosing the fight over and over, because he is just a mindless drone that follows the easyest method to win anything, also people have been replicating it with worse gear than was origanally suggested, therefore it adds to my point that it requires less skill than people thought, as I said communication how hard is it to remember (not exact I know) nuke 3s after XXX player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    And people who say timing and correct rotation = skill correct rotation is saying x member nukes first, Y member nukes next etc etc, and you tell them how long to wait before nuking, I haven't done this,

    Skill is knowing what to use, when to use it and to change tactics based on whats going on, and melee have to do this all the time with combos, making decisions on the fly,
    How is this different ?
    Its just a comparison of what to use, combos, timing and on the perspective of one player with a group of player?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Awww your precious WAR going to be nerfed, who cares, Garuda buff bring it on, I am not jelous of anything I just hate the prospect of playing a game with everyone saying "lvl x, y, z class or your a gimp jelous noob who needs to learn to play" I know if I tell my friends planning on starting the game at PS3 realease, they HAVE to lvl either BLM, WAR, ARC, WHM to do anything they will be put off.

    Also for people who say "all I want is to stack DRGs" please tell me where I said that CLASS STACKING CAN GO AND FUCKING DIE I don't care if its DRG stacks, BLM stacks BRD stacks they are ALL bad for the games future.

    And people who say timing and correct rotation = skill correct rotation is saying x member nukes first, Y member nukes next etc etc, and you tell them how long to wait before nuking, I haven't done this, and I will never do it because class stacking makes the game boring for me. I will gladly go without gear than stack classes (in fact I did when DH was released)

    Skill is knowing what to use, when to use it and to change tactics based on whats going on, and melee have to do this all the time with combos, making decisions on the fly, for example in ifrit, does DRG go for max dps using both 3 step combos, while potentially mpking the tank with eruptions, or do they play it safe and only go with combos from the back and side? It all depends how you want to play, and what the current situation requires.

    Whereas this retarded BLM stack, just needs communication and gear.



    They just prove my point that this method requires alot less skill than other methods, and Noir knows they will have to wait for a new stratagy to come out, loosing the fight over and over, because he is just a mindless drone that follows the easyest method to win anything, also people have been replicating it with worse gear than was origanally suggested, therefore it adds to my point that it requires less skill than people thought, as I said communication how hard is it to remember (not exact I know) nuke 3s after XXX player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    And people who say timing and correct rotation = skill correct rotation is saying x member nukes first, Y member nukes next etc etc, and you tell them how long to wait before nuking, I haven't done this, and I will never do it because class stacking makes the game boring for me. I will gladly go without gear than stack classes (in fact I did when DH was released)

    Skill is knowing what to use, when to use it and to change tactics based on whats going on, and melee have to do this all the time with combos, making decisions on the fly, for example in ifrit, does DRG go for max dps using both 3 step combos, while potentially mpking the tank with eruptions, or do they play it safe and only go with combos from the back and side? It all depends how you want to play, and what the current situation requires.

    Whereas this retarded BLM stack, just needs communication and gear.



    They just prove my point that this method requires alot less skill than other methods, and Noir knows they will have to wait for a new stratagy to come out, loosing the fight over and over, because he is just a mindless drone that follows the easyest method to win anything, also people have been replicating it with worse gear than was origanally suggested, therefore it adds to my point that it requires less skill than people thought, as I said communication how hard is it to remember (not exact I know) nuke 3s after XXX player.

    How would you know how much skill it takes to blm stack? You have yet to beat Garuda.

    I have beat it both ways, and both way require skill and coordination. Perhaps you should beat an encounter before you pass judgement on how hard (or easy) it is.
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