Taming the Tempest (Hard)

[Neversleeps]

getting 5 blm's with over 370-400+INT isnt easy, but its needed for this to work.

This information is incorrect. Yesterday, I was able to emulate (thought this was the proper word considering Thaum's past) Legacy's strategy with two different linkshells. In both cases, all five of the BLMs had an intelligence of sub 360. In one group, only three of the BLMs actually had double melds, and one was only using double melds of Tier III int materia (+24 on head and brand, +12 on legs) while the other (myself) had only the equivalent of a double IV int hat, double IV int pants, and a double IV acc. scepter.

The important thing in this fight is making sure you don't get resisted, the rotation of your BLM spells, the timing of your abilities, the timing of BV while using convert to maximize MP gain, and knowing when to both rest MP and when to burn through your MP to take it down.

To be fair, though, both of the kills only occurred after Garuda had teleported and was readying AF. So it was VERY close. But the notion or concept that 370-380 Int is a requirement is not true. Additionally, both groups could probably continue to optimize the fight through better spell/ability rotations to increase the kill speed so that it could be done before the teleport into astral occurs.

P.S. Thank you to both Darth Taru and Lux Aeterna for taking the time to talk to me about how to stagger nukes through the first to second teleports to extend the time before Astral Flow occurs. The strategy is incredibly clever, even if it will probably only last the duration of Golden Week =P.

[Fated]

Your words are landing on deaf ears. This guy is convinced that if he can't stack DRGs on every fight that the game isn't balanced.

[Helium]

Sorry I have to ask after you get the geared BLMs what skill is there in spam thunder/thundara combo fast retarget resume? There is no skill in it, just get the gear.

I think you are confusing strategy with ease of execution. Highly skilled people pull off very difficult things and make it look easy, very smart people devise stratagies for difficult problems. I don't think the presumed simplicity of the execution detracts from the stratagey, it in my mind, enhances it.
Nav~

[Raikki]

I think you are confusing strategy with ease of execution. Highly skilled people pull off very difficult things and make it look easy, very smart people devise stratagies for difficult problems. I don't think the presumed simplicity of the execution detracts from the stratagey, it in my mind, enhances it.
Nav~

The cleverness of card counting doesn't make card counters any more welcome in Vegas.

[V0lg]

First off gratz on this its a fun proof of concept for sure.

Now I had a theory this was possible because with just 3xBlms we burn her down to 30% before AF. Although I figured they have countermeasures in place, and I think having her skip to AF at a certain HP was put in place for this reason.

Oddly enough my LS is also Legacy (of Excalibur) we tried this and we seemed to do too much dmg to fast. We adjusted to slow it down at the start but then out had to much HP and we couldn't get it down fast enough. In the end we went back to the regular fight start which seemed easier. All and all I like this fight alot and enjoy going through the phases, although the biggest things in this fight is that everyone in the party needs to do their part.

Although one more thing why did someone mention the Blms needed about 400 Int? I only have 320int & 540Atk Mag. without food yet dps is high something I missed?

[Theplatter]

Ah, the haters always find their way into these threads to try and bring them down and QQ enough for SE to make a hotfix...

Regardless, great job on the strat and kills, guys

[Kumaeru]

We were actually just took an off day yesterday after I made that video and witnessed most linkshells wipe trying to do BLM burn. It was pretty funny actually. So no, not every blm can do it. And it's not just spamming thunder spells thats killing it. Tank DPS, Brd DPS, and Whm DPS help out in that fight also... as you realize you are a fraction of a second away from a full wipe. So if you have Blms getting a few resists, then you will wipe also.

I don't think "phase lock" if that's even what the term it should be called is a glitch. It's not really locked into a phase... She just uses her AF after her plumes are dead. S-E gives a benefit to those who can kill her faster to skip the first dust pools phase and even the annoying phase where she just teleports around and summons plumes... You can go straight from Astral Flow to the Chirada/Suprana adds. So it seems like it was part of they're plan to make it almost easier or have less chance to screw up if you killed her faster. We just took that and bypassed AF entirely.

I'm at 386 INT wearing gimp AF pants (sorc pants drop has been lame for me), and Lux is at 389. Swinds parsed lower than normal in that fight because he was on the phone. As stated by Miko 'Neversleeps' you don't need high INT. Although I did mention to people about timing convert with BV for the HP boost, we actually never even did that. The key is not getting resists and timing when to go all out and rest for mp. If we time the BV + convert better so we don't waste MP during the convert we can probably do this fight without worry... Sometimes cutting it close at the end with the elixer and last round of nukes.



Melee burn would be possible, but repositioning to the center or off center to a pillar I think would be needed. I have a fully capped Str/Int MNK so I would love to try this out also as my damage parse on Garuda on MNK is also pretty high. Would probably need BV Paeon though. and hundred fists with str potion at her Plume spam stage before AF or potentially lowering INT where possible and increasing +attack through the entire build to maximize auto attack damage... We're not just a bunch of mage noobs that some seem to allude to heh..

[Klive]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post671642

Seems Yoshi is adjusting the fight.

[Kaeko]

Regarding some of the "this takes no skill" responses, like others have said, this is not that easily performed. I was part of Miko's group and you indeed don't need triple melds, but just a really good spell rotation and timing. Triple melds or whatever certain make this easier, but it is by no means necessary. Also, if people REALLY wanted to push DPS w/o strong melds, you could just all sport those new sanction cudgels and pray you don't die. It's not rocket science, but it's not like they just randomly mashed buttons and won because Garuda gave up after /checking their gear.

People can think what they want about this being an exploit or whatever; this is everyone's personal choice. However, I think there is something tremendously rewarding about posting a video to a forum and having like a huge chunk of the endgame population on both sides of the world immediately try to copy you within 24 hours. Beyond this, this even got an immediate response from YoshiP (and during Golden Week). That's pretty high praise, even if it's indirect. I'm in a "rival" LS on the same server as Legacy, and I really have no reason to overtly praise them, but seriously guys just give a bit of credit where it's due.

[Noir]

Regarding some of the "this takes no skill" responses, like others have said, this is not that easily performed. I was part of Miko's group and you indeed don't need triple melds, but just a really good spell rotation and timing. Triple melds or whatever certain make this easier, but it is by no means necessary. Also, if people REALLY wanted to push DPS w/o strong melds, you could just all sport those new sanction cudgels and pray you don't die. It's not rocket science, but it's not like they just randomly mashed buttons and won because Garuda gave up after /checking their gear.

People can think what they want about this being an exploit or whatever; this is everyone's personal choice. However, I think there is something tremendously rewarding about posting a video to a forum and having like a huge chunk of the endgame population on both sides of the world immediately try to copy you within 24 hours. Beyond this, this even got an immediate response from YoshiP (and during Golden Week). That's pretty high praise, even if it's indirect. I'm in a "rival" LS on the same server as Legacy, and I really have no reason to overtly praise them, but seriously guys just give a bit of credit where it's due.

What piss me off are all those jealous *#+}*}%*# . Because of all th fuckinh crying we will have a warrior nerf and Garuda buff, which will make it harder for the people who kills it regularly and impossible for these stupid %%#%###% that keep crying and never get anything accomplished in game since they are all lvl 12