Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Argantaelle]

Could anyone please recreate two of my Duskwight characters in the mobile version?

Girl:

Face 4

Jaw 1

Eye 3

Eyebrows 3

Nose 4

Mouth 2 (no lip colour)

No facial features

Hairstyle: 1 (Mother Miounne's)

Skin colour: 10:5

Hair colour: 1:3.

Eye colour: 13:5

Boy:

Face 1

Jaw 3

Eye 3

Eyebrows 1

Nose 1

Mouths 2 (no lip colour)

No facial features

Hairstyle: 1

Skin colour: 9:4

Hair colour: 1:7

Eye colour: 13:5

[Hatsuoki]

Could anyone please recreate two of my Duskwight characters in the mobile version?

Girl:

Face 4

Jaw 1

Eye 3

Eyebrows 3

Nose 4

Mouth 2 (no lip colour)

No facial features

Hairstyle: 1 (Mother Miounne's)

Skin colour: 10:5

Hair colour: 1:3.

Eye colour: 13:5

Boy:

Face 1

Jaw 3

Eye 3

Eyebrows 1

Nose 1

Mouths 2 (no lip colour)

No facial features

Hairstyle: 1

Skin colour: 9:4

Hair colour: 1:7

Eye colour: 13:5

Here are some screenshots. Though again, the part numbers don't all correlate and the color palettes are not laid out in the same way so I could only guess on them but let me know if you want to see a different setting. (Screenshots of your characters helps!)

[Argantaelle]

Thank you so much!

I see the skin and hair colours are different, but overall those faces are very close to EW ones. The mobile version preserved the mature, focused look of my female Elezen, which DT lost. The lips are large, but the height of the upper lip and the thickness of the lower lip match the EW original. The face parts are a little bit different, but still the face is much closer to what she used to have in EW.

I see Tencent doesn't mind when its male characters apply lip gloss. The bone structure is very close to the EW face; the same can be said about the eyes, the eye bags and the eyebrows. The lips are different, but at least they were trying.

I have only one picture of my male Elezen alt from the Shadowbringers era (I rarely take pictures and I'm not a huge fan of g-posing, unfortunately).

[Gaddes]

I see Tencent doesn't mind when its male characters apply lip gloss. The bone structure is very close to the EW face; the same can be said about the eyes, the eye bags and the eyebrows. The lips are different, but at least they were trying.

I have only one picture of my male Elezen alt from the Shadowbringers era (I rarely take pictures and I'm not a huge fan of g-posing, unfortunately).

Yes your male elezen had/has the same rare wide lips that mine had that were completely obliterated in DT. I'm not sure why the Mobile version forces lip gloss on Duskwight elezen lips (there was no way to remove it lol), but apart from that, the lips themselves were far closer in shape to the original than the current ones in DT.

[Tahli]

Endwalker on left, Dawntrail in middle, Mobile version on right


https://i.imgur.com/uoUz8sL.jpeg


So, what I noticed on the mobile version on my Face 2 Miqo is:

- The mouth was exaggerated into a bigger smile, but the lip shape looks right and it has the mischievous look that the original did, but more. I like it.
- Couldn't quite get the same skin tone.
- Scar shape looks more like the original.
- The hairline on this hairstyle is filled in solid, looks kind of strange.
- The eyeshine I think looks a lot better, probably because the light is properly aligned on the same part of each eye, and not looking like an unfocused daze.
- At least for Keepers, the glow of the iris color over the pupil seems stronger, I think that's neat. (And it doesn't look like milky cataracts.)
- The whites of the eyes are brighter, making the iris stand out more. Looks better than the grey sclera in my opinion.
- The whole eye is bigger I think, this looks fine to me.
- The eyebrows. I was a little surprised, because even the mobile version couldn't quite get the shape right. Still too short, and it shows more with other eyebrow options but it still is a bit too straight and lacking a curve. But, it's a lot closer to the original than the Dawntrail with its shape and softer color.


More examples of the eyebrow options posted in the Petition to fix this face's eyebrows thread.


Overall, I think the mobile character looks a lot better than what I have now in Dawntrail. Would still sacrifice an arm and a leg to at least have nice looking eyebrows in the main game again.

[glitteringcosmos]

Another LL, another opportunity to address the glaring facial issues still unresolved for a bunch of different races. Male miqo eyes STILL look dead if you play with face 4 (and it's not the only race this is an issue for), the eyebrows are still terrible on both genders and not at all the same...it feels very much like they've thrown their hands up and given up and are telling us who are unhappy with the changes to just deal with it. Which sucks, when your character is a completely different person to the character you played with for x number of years. I really expected better but maybe that's on me. When I submitted my bug ticket it was moved to "working as intended" and I'm sorry but that's unacceptable to me, especially when it's the result of lazy development moving all of the face rigs to the same mesh so that they can further streamline lazy gear designs. So much effort was wasted on the graphics (that weren't even bad in the first place!) that could have been better spent elsewhere in the game to make it good, and then we wouldn't have the "DT is the worst expansion" discourse that we have now.

I hope the devs prove me wrong and that they ARE still working on it in the background.

[Hatsuoki]

I'm sorry for jumping in to repost the mobile comparison I did a week or so ago. My sub has run out and I don't know when I'll post next but I dug out some better older pictures + took a better in-game pic in the mobile version. Also since there has been some discussion about still being unhappy had the update given us the what the mobile version had, I have to add that while nothing is *exactly* the same, the changes such as slightly narrower eyes and pursed lips matches the idea I have of the character based on what we had before better than what we have now. So no, they are changes I would have been fine with.

[Hatsuoki]

Is there...hope?

[faiarrow]

I wouldn't hold my breath but that's because of how badly burnt we've been since benchmark.
I'll believe it when I see it (or when they give us an actual framework, as the JP side has been asking for for months instead of "graphic gacha.")

[moodud]

I got my hands on the mobile version too, and made compilation of female Midlander lips. Click to show the pics.

Quote (posted on jp forum). Feel free to use the pics.
Will add other races later.

Edit

Added female Highlander.

Mobile version female Highlander lips.