Dear SE: Please listen to actual players, not just content creators

[yesnt]

some people dont like people who work hard for something

Well, to most people this is a game, not a job, so "work" is quite a misplaced term in this context.

[IdleBlood]

The toxic players around the forum, for real

[Mawlzy]

Also why would people do the hard content at all if you could get the rewards from normal? They wouldn't.

This is the most savage indictment of hard content I've seen on these boards.

[Mecia]

Shouldnt all this be directed at SE upper management and not CBU3? This infighting is stupid. SE is the one that should invest in man power if developmental cost is the issue. YoshiP seemingly has to PR talk his way out of straight up pointing the finger at SE.

Im reminded of how Capcom fucked over Hideaki Itsuno.

[Kasumii]

This is the most savage indictment of hard content I've seen on these boards.

I think this is such a massive self report. These people don't care about the content. They just want something shiny to flex their superiority over others. And when you make the content more accessible or the rewards more accessible then their new shiny special toy to flex and lord over everyone is suddenly "worthless" and they start throwing a fit. Its funny.

No idea if links are allowed but it reminds me of this Emet-Selch AI speech (which I personally love and agree with): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Ry-1WfXAQ

[Mawlzy]

I think this is such a massive self report. These people don't care about the content. They just want something shiny to flex their superiority over others. And when you make the content more accessible or the rewards more accessible then their new shiny special toy to flex and lord over everyone is suddenly "worthless" and they start throwing a fit. Its funny.

No idea if links are allowed but it reminds me of this Emet-Selch AI speech (which I personally love and agree with): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Ry-1WfXAQ

Yeah, I was always under the impression the content was interesting and raiders engaged with it because of the exciting mechanics and the challenge.

Apparently it's just an overcomplicated form of "press button, get bacon."

[Gurgeh]

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Apparently it's just an overcomplicated form of "press button, get bacon."

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Is that s real thing?!
I'm not wild about meat but I make an exception for bacon.
Link please!

[tsuchii]

F* youtubers tbh. Why do people think they're a representative of the playerbase.
They make like... how many views?
There's millions of players and the youtubers only make thousands of views. They should listen to actual player feedback, not some greasy sweaty annoying influencers.

[Gurgeh]

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...Also why would people do the hard content at all if you could get the rewards from normal? They wouldn't.

This argument, comes up so frequently I'm convinced it's the case for a 'lot' of raiders. I've only encountered one person outside these forums that actually made it sound like they 'enjoyed' getting a Cloud of darkness mount, and none who 'enjoyed' getting their Ex mount. Yes I've encountered a decent sample of people with Ex mounts.

Its no wonder that once you move from Ex prog to farm the mod and vibe changes completely, and becomes just pretty awful.
CB3 could transform their bridge difficulty EX content if they just got people their mount quicker, by rewarding people for prog that doesn't clear provided they are in helper groups, and do clear at least once.

GET PEOPLE OUT OF EX AND INTO SAVAGE. But get rid of all the tedious meta farmy BS that's entitled in gearing. It not the necessity you think it is. You want people doing that? Fine. Give it it's own incentive.

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Raiders are being demonised in this thread and it just shows that some people dont like people who work hard for something

Also noone ever actually says "it just shows..." even that is the only conclusion one can draw. It's like a tell/tick for when someone has spotted other conclusions but want to blow past those with contempt. It's the only time that speech pattern is deployed. Like when someone says "with an due respect" it's only ever used when someone finds 'little' respect for.

This is the most savage indictment of hard content I've seen on these boards.

Indeed.

It's a shame (I'm not sure who for) but itc seems like a shame I feel there is no place me in high end. I love the gameplay. I love the progress. I'm in no hurry. My patience is infinite. I loved going back to practice parties after clearing EX, yes consistently. (But i just can't with still no rewards at all after three Exs, while watching the hostility of farms. It's too much. I feel like I'm being punished for not being enough of a Dick.) I think I'd have enjoyed M1S, if I'd have been able to queue it in PF while it was hip new content happy to watch guides to compensate for my lack of experience, or later even but at that point the tedious guides BS is just too much because I am a lot less interested.

And it's why I'm at such odds with everyone who calls 'sniper' . I do think that people should enjoy just pulling and pulling and pulling again, helping new players, redoing prog and pulling again. I don't see the problem. The game is fun. It's the reality of people who then ruin it by getting shitty of they have to wait for discussion. By getting shitty and abandoning because the prog isnt as promised.

Why are they shitty? Well I think they do NOT enjoy the content.
*They only want their shiny, their bacon.*
The ONLY things that make it miserable for me personally, well truth is for me yeah it's a minority of 1/8 of very pervasive people, combined with the misery that is wasting time in PFs, and lately the prospect of the impossibility of FT entry.

[Hanzz96]

Well, to most people this is a game, not a job, so "work" is quite a misplaced term in this context.

It's not a misplaced term. Doing savage and ultimate is work and the rewarding part is achieving the goal at the end and seeing the fruits of your labour once you have the reward.