Difficult experience in Forked Tower – a reminder to respect public content

[Supersnow845]

We are reaching unhinged rant levels of messages here, like most of your points don’t even make any sense

Hardcore players didn’t like chaotic, theres a reason it died on launch. Because everyone and their mum wanted BA ozma but instead got 24 man savage. Same as body checks. The overwhelming negative response to EW’s body check galore is why DT’s savages are actually better. This just echos the discussion around the hairstyle in chaotic in 7.1. People who didn’t do chaotic or weren’t interesting for some reason thought that just because square targeted the content too high and went into savage territory that savage people had to like it or had to be grateful they were being content at the expense of the casuals when the hardcore players didn’t want it either

Who wanted what job design is debatable. More hardcore players are responsible for the lowering of the ceiling of a lot of jobs (make buffs align by default feedback in ShB as an example) but casual players are also responsible for the lowering of the skill floors (I play a WAR and if I even have to pretend there is a healer in this dungeon I’m reporting everyone). Neither has no responsibility but that’s to be expected in a fluid community. There is also just the fact that square is awful at responding to feedback in a useful way

However none of this is relevant to the fact that screaming hardcore vs casual isn’t the problem that’s going on here. The discords are fine to accept anyone and they will try to help. It’s just “join run that was organised 4 days in advance at the expense of someone who organised then rely on said organisation to clear” isn’t the “right” way to interact with people trying to get the content completed. You shouldn’t be attacked if you do join but you also have to admit you are benefiting from their organisation while also hindering it. It’s your right to enter the content, it’s not your right to enter the content and benefit from pre organisation that you didn’t help with

The discords aren’t intentionally excluding anyone out of a weird “I’m a hardcore player so I’m better than you”. They are trying to minimise the chance the run fails due to random player wildcards. “Sniper” is just a colloquial term from BA discourse. Few people actually mean it in an intentionally offensive way