New Player Etiquette

[Mesarthim]

Shadowbringers dungeon trash has many casts that should be interrupted or stunned. Not doing this makes it significantly harder to heal. While it is possible to heal through, it's equally fair to say that the tank should have interrupted or stunned certain attacks. This was a gimmick they did throughout Shadowbringers to add sophistication for tanks, but of course they wanted to continually dumb it down into Endwalker.

Alright so this reminds me of Dohn Mheg with the frogs, and the one or two mobs at the start that periodically do a stronger hit. The end result is otherwise the same, auto attacks and an occasional stronger slap. Holminster Switch uh... the manticores near the end that sometimes need to be stunned out of their aoe? Those are irrelevant though since they're avoidable point blanks.

Still means wall pulls are the norm. Majority of the time it's still boring trash mobs that sometimes do an aoe or minibuster (though calling them that is generous).

Criterions might not have been overly popular but they at least had interesting trash mobs.

[Espon]

If he's already in Endwalker then he should be used to pulling multiple packs. If he wants to go one at at time then used the Duty Support.

Just because you're the tank, doesn't make you the main character. There's 3 other people in the dungeon with you. I'm fine with stopping at the final boss for people to watch the cutscene if they're new, but pick up the pace during the boring trash packs. There's nothing scenic or "storylike" about slowly fighting the same enemies you've seen dozens of times before.

[Ryaze]

Shadowbringers dungeon trash has many casts that should be interrupted or stunned. Not doing this makes it significantly harder to heal. While it is possible to heal through, it's equally fair to say that the tank should have interrupted or stunned certain attacks. This was a gimmick they did throughout Shadowbringers to add sophistication for tanks, but of course they wanted to continually dumb it down into Endwalker.

ShB has a single mob in two places in a single dungeon that needs to be interrupted, the Dohnfast Fauth in Dohn Mheg. There's no other interrupts in all of ShB iirc that are even remotely threatening. Even doing the full W2W pull between the 2nd and 3rd bosses in Anamnesis Anyder is less dangerous than not interrupting the Fauth. And the W2W pulls in Mt. Gulg are dangerous simply because of the number of mobs, not any special mechanics that are casted.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Cmon really?! The trash in every dungeon is handled the exact same way, pull, use cooldowns THERES NOTHING NEW TO LEARN lol. Walk in dungeon, grab big pull, if you die, adjust and pull a little smaller.

You can lvl up jobs without ever playing it (FL/beast tribes/WT per example). So using the LVL of the player is kind of a bad indicator.
You're free to suggest to the new tank to pull more but if they don't feel comfortable doing it, does it hurt to respect their wishes? Doing single pulls vs doubles only really adds like 5 mins to the dungeon clear. Sure it's the millionth time you're doing it but it may be their first.

Ultimately though, it's up to the group. Majority wins for wanting to go faster or not. If you can't stand it, you're free to leave the group.

IF a tank or healer has decided to level via any other method outside of virtually INSTANT queue dungeons then that's their problem.

I will give tanks up to the first boss, if it's gone smooth and been no deaths and the pull hasn't increased then ill "accidently" hit extra mobs with gravity

[miraidensetsu]

Frankly, some players simply ask for YPYT mentality. I even just let he die when I'm healing if he's not pulling for the tank.

[TaleraRistain]

Nah, let their salty a** leave. If they run ahead of the tank and don't bring mobs back, I'm not chasing them out to Narnia to heal them. I encourage my tanks to pull more since I can handle it but I also don't care if they pull small. I just adjust and add more dps since I need to watch health less. So a salty dps running ahead is going to die in my parties because I'm going to be back there with the tank.

[NonBinaryNyan]

Just a reminder--not all of the tank jobs start as a level 1 tank.

[Asari5]

Just a reminder--not all of the tank jobs start as a level 1 tank.

true... but you still can start with a low lvl dungeon. thats what i do with every new job to get used to the new skills.
lvl 30, 60, 80.
you dont have to be a genius to come up with that.


i do think they should change it though. i think you should only be able to learn dark knight as a lvl 30 warrior or paladin. and gunblade as a lvl 60 tank.
and schoolar as a lvl 30 conjurer.

[ChrysOCE]

Just a reminder--not all of the tank jobs start as a level 1 tank.

I mean, lets be real. If someone picks up GNB and immediately goes into a dungeon, I am going to expect them to know how to tank. Even then, that starts at 60. So ok, yea. But come on, SHB/DT/EW dungeons? No, you should know what your job does. And if you dont want to level up in dungeons and learn how to actually tank and and you get 20+ levels, that is on you as a player.

[Absurdity]

Sure, they could've gone with Gunbreaker as their first tank, or used a level boost, or leveled entirely through frontlines.
But that's on them, it was their choice to not go through the normal leveling process and gradually get used to the role.

And if someone decides to skip that part then it's on them to learn how to play their job before jumping into higher level content with others, not on everyone else to accomodate it.