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  1. #231
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    If you can not prove that removing the gender-lock would not offer new glam options
    It doesn't need to be proven, lol.
    The DEVs OBVIOUSLY do not want it right now. They may change their minds, if enough people (especially in the JP area) request it but that remains to be seen.

    Allowing to dye every piece of gear would increase glamor options too and yet developers to not wish to do it. The game can handle it just fine and it is hardly more effort than setting a flag in the colorset.

    Heck, they even lock the option behind high end raids, putting the dyable version out of reach for many people.

    So yeah "moar glam options" is clearly not a sufficient argument for the DEVs to deviate from their design vision.
    Got anything else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    But it still stands that "removing the gender-lock from gear would offer more glam options to players" is true
    Edit due to stupid "no more posts today" bullshit:
    From a purely technical PoV you actually REDUCE glamor options overall, as you remove one unique item from the pool to replace it with the same variant from the other sex. Instead of males looking different from the females by default, they now look the same.

    If you want to globally increase glamor options, you'd need to retain both versions for both sexes.
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    Last edited by Granyala; 06-14-2025 at 04:40 AM.

  2. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    It doesn't need to be proven, lol.
    The DEVs OBVIOUSLY do not want it right now. They may change their minds, if enough people (especially in the JP area) request it but that remains to be seen.

    Allowing to dye every piece of gear would increase glamor options too and yet developers to not wish to do it. The game can handle it just fine and it is hardly more effort than setting a flag in the colorset.

    Heck, they even lock the option behind high end raids, putting the dyable version out of reach for many people.

    So yeah "moar glam options" is clearly not a sufficient argument for the DEVs to deviate from their design vision. Got anything else?
    It is an argument, and you did not disprove it.
    It does not have to be done immediately, and it does not have to be done at all.
    But it still stands that "removing the gender-lock from gear would offer more glam options to players" is true, and a strong supporting argument that makes the thread OP's request valid.

    What is a strong argument against it's ability to give more glam options?
    Note: "those glam options are wrong to me" is not a valid argument, that is your feelings.
    Note: This is not a conversation about devs or any other outside factors that neither parties actually know anything about. This is whether or not unisex clothes can benefit some players. Please stay on topic.
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  3. #233
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    There is a saying: sometimes less is more. Maybe it applies to this topic too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    There is a saying: sometimes less is more. Maybe it applies to this topic too.
    Maybe it doesn't.
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    The things I do for the glam...

  5. #235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Note: "those glam options are wrong to me" is not a valid argument, that is your feelings.
    This is whether or not unisex clothes can benefit some players. Please stay on topic.
    The only benefit some other players get is: "I like this look, it feels good!".
    So this whole discussion is basically just an argument between: "I like this look, it feels good!" vs "Those glam options feel wrong to me!"

    It's ALL just subjective feelings, there is no right or wrong here and ultimately DEVs have to make a call according to majority popularity. If stockings on male Roes turn out to be all the rave and set a new fashion trend across the source, we will see more of them. If people go: "Eeew!", then SE will never do it again.

    BTW: you trying to argue this in a vacuum shows that you do not have any actual, factual arguments. Newsflash: this thing doesn't exist in a vacuum. This isn't a single player game. Others will have to see your glamor and their enjoyment may be affected by it. You can rage at me all you want, that IS something the DEVs have to consider.

    Also why stop at the gender thing, yet again?

    I would like to be able to wear an Au Ra or Elezen Hempen shirt as a Miqo (if you don't know: this item has unique models per race group).
    I would like to put on gear and weapons that are designed for other jobs.

    So what if my White Mage glamors a DRK weapon or PLD weapon and shield and wears plate armor to pose as an "Ishgardian Combat Cleric"?
    I feel that looks cool (it probably would look rather hilarious due to animations being tied to weapons :'D), who are you (general you) to tell me this is wrong to do?

    So where do you draw the line in what freedoms to allow? The DEVs gave a clear reason why we cannot glam other job's gear: recognizable silhouette.... yet we can run around in bunny/frog costumes and hide our weapons, so that reasoning is clearly already out of the window....
    Quote Originally Posted by RenoireRodin View Post
    If anything, we need more genderlocking gear. There are way too many weirdos out there.
    Come on, that is uncalled for and not productive.
    People have different tastes and that is okay.
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    Last edited by Granyala; 06-14-2025 at 04:46 PM.

  6. #236
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    If anything, we need more genderlocking gear. There are way too many weirdos out there.
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  7. #237
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    The only benefit some other players get is: ( At this point, you assume how others feel )
    So this whole discussion is basically just an argument between: "I like this look, it feels good!" vs "Those glam options feel wrong to me!"
    Wrong. You are too emotional.
    This is not an argument between who likes what. That is what you keep wanting it to be, but that is not reality.
    The argument is this:

    "Would removing genderlocking gear benefit some players?"
    The answer is yes. Until you can prove that removing genderlock would benefit NO players, the argument still stands. You can even begin with me.
    "Would removing the genderlock benefit you? (me)" Yes it would.
    Ok, so what is your argument to prove that it would in fact not benefit me?

    Nothing else you wrote was relevant, nor mattered.

    Quote Originally Posted by RenoireRodin View Post
    If anything, we need more genderlocking gear. There are way too many weirdos out there.
    Thank you for your blog update.
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  8. #238
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    Hairstyles too bun boos have several styles way cuter then the girls get
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  9. #239
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    Illuminant Jewel
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    So what if my White Mage glamors a DRK weapon or PLD weapon and shield and wears plate armor to pose as an "Ishgardian Combat Cleric"?
    I feel that looks cool (it probably would look rather hilarious due to animations being tied to weapons :'D), who are you (general you) to tell me this is wrong to do?

    So where do you draw the line in what freedoms to allow?
    At least for me this is pretty easy to figure out; nobody is a paladin or mage in real life (unfortunately.) So locking gear to one fantasy role doesn't communicate any values or stereotypes about a real category of human being, but gender locking does.
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    To this day i still hate how they give in... we get less gear as "why bother makin two if we have to make it for both genders, making 4 actually... just make one unisex" and it still looks horrible when males were dresses. No if you want to wear a dress, go play a f###### female...
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