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  1. #1
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Note: "those glam options are wrong to me" is not a valid argument, that is your feelings.
    This is whether or not unisex clothes can benefit some players. Please stay on topic.
    The only benefit some other players get is: "I like this look, it feels good!".
    So this whole discussion is basically just an argument between: "I like this look, it feels good!" vs "Those glam options feel wrong to me!"

    It's ALL just subjective feelings, there is no right or wrong here and ultimately DEVs have to make a call according to majority popularity. If stockings on male Roes turn out to be all the rave and set a new fashion trend across the source, we will see more of them. If people go: "Eeew!", then SE will never do it again.

    BTW: you trying to argue this in a vacuum shows that you do not have any actual, factual arguments. Newsflash: this thing doesn't exist in a vacuum. This isn't a single player game. Others will have to see your glamor and their enjoyment may be affected by it. You can rage at me all you want, that IS something the DEVs have to consider.

    Also why stop at the gender thing, yet again?

    I would like to be able to wear an Au Ra or Elezen Hempen shirt as a Miqo (if you don't know: this item has unique models per race group).
    I would like to put on gear and weapons that are designed for other jobs.

    So what if my White Mage glamors a DRK weapon or PLD weapon and shield and wears plate armor to pose as an "Ishgardian Combat Cleric"?
    I feel that looks cool (it probably would look rather hilarious due to animations being tied to weapons :'D), who are you (general you) to tell me this is wrong to do?

    So where do you draw the line in what freedoms to allow? The DEVs gave a clear reason why we cannot glam other job's gear: recognizable silhouette.... yet we can run around in bunny/frog costumes and hide our weapons, so that reasoning is clearly already out of the window....
    Quote Originally Posted by RenoireRodin View Post
    If anything, we need more genderlocking gear. There are way too many weirdos out there.
    Come on, that is uncalled for and not productive.
    People have different tastes and that is okay.
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    Last edited by Granyala; 06-14-2025 at 04:46 PM.

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    Batbrat's Avatar
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    Gotham City
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    The only benefit some other players get is: ( At this point, you assume how others feel )
    So this whole discussion is basically just an argument between: "I like this look, it feels good!" vs "Those glam options feel wrong to me!"
    Wrong. You are too emotional.
    This is not an argument between who likes what. That is what you keep wanting it to be, but that is not reality.
    The argument is this:

    "Would removing genderlocking gear benefit some players?"
    The answer is yes. Until you can prove that removing genderlock would benefit NO players, the argument still stands. You can even begin with me.
    "Would removing the genderlock benefit you? (me)" Yes it would.
    Ok, so what is your argument to prove that it would in fact not benefit me?

    Nothing else you wrote was relevant, nor mattered.

    Quote Originally Posted by RenoireRodin View Post
    If anything, we need more genderlocking gear. There are way too many weirdos out there.
    Thank you for your blog update.
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    Evermomo's Avatar
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    Illuminant Jewel
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    So what if my White Mage glamors a DRK weapon or PLD weapon and shield and wears plate armor to pose as an "Ishgardian Combat Cleric"?
    I feel that looks cool (it probably would look rather hilarious due to animations being tied to weapons :'D), who are you (general you) to tell me this is wrong to do?

    So where do you draw the line in what freedoms to allow?
    At least for me this is pretty easy to figure out; nobody is a paladin or mage in real life (unfortunately.) So locking gear to one fantasy role doesn't communicate any values or stereotypes about a real category of human being, but gender locking does.
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