So how is everyone feeling about Occult Crescent now that it’s been a few days?

[Ephremjlm]

This is a little revisionist history.

I think the biggest thing about this is not that the idea was bad, it was that the implementation was bad. Once again I have to reference FFXI because SE owns it, the game is still there, and the same team runs it. But leveling other jobs in that game was great for sub jobs. It WAS interesting. They made all jobs fun, gave them all unique utility, and it felt fulfilling when you were able to take abilities and stats from other jobs into your main. Why do we think people initially got SOOOO excited for the Phantom Job system when it was announced in Occult Crescent. Its basically the same thing, just a shorter time span for leveling.

I get what you're saying that it was annoying in FFXIV, but like anything we need to look at all the pieces and the context before we make any sweeping judgements. Its that same mindset that got us to the homogenized mess that we have today.

[Daralii]

I think the biggest thing about this is not that the idea was bad, it was that the implementation was bad. Once again I have to reference FFXI because SE owns it, the game is still there, and the same team runs it. But leveling other jobs in that game was great for sub jobs. It WAS interesting. They made all jobs fun, gave them all unique utility, and it felt fulfilling when you were able to take abilities and stats from other jobs into your main. Why do we think people initially got SOOOO excited for the Phantom Job system when it was announced in Occult Crescent. Its basically the same thing, just a shorter time span for leveling.

I get what you're saying that it was annoying in FFXIV, but I like anything we need to look at all the pieces and the context before we make any sweeping judgements. Its that same mindset that got us to the homogenized mess that we have today.

You can go even further back if you want. Mastering a job in FFV, the game they're pulling this shit from, let you carry over a skill from it to other jobs. Freelancer had the unique ability to utilize much more and equip any gear, so mastering other jobs eventually built it up to become extremely strong.

[Ephremjlm]

You can go even further back if you want. Mastering a job in FFV, the game they're pulling this shit from, let you carry over a skill from it to other jobs. Freelancer had the unique ability to utilize much more and equip any gear, so mastering other jobs eventually built it up to become extremely strong.

That's true