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  1. #11
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    Router Modem
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Lol wut? Like, way to white knight, but this is as credible as a snowball walking out the gates of hell and declaring: "no, srsly bruh, it's chill."
    48 players is a lot harder to fill than 8 players, this should be obvious... I got into my first DRS static back in ShB with literally no achievements to my name, and I didn't even have to apply to multiple groups. I applied once and got in. If I had attempted to do the same thing for Eden's Promise (Savage), I would almost certainly have had to grind out the process because no half-decent group would pick up someone with no logs for Savage.

    Calling me a white knight is also hilarious when I am on record for criticizing a lot of things about OC and straight up calling the devs lazy. The only reason I'm replying to this thread is that I believe that it's not a good thing to drown out legitimate criticism with fabricated nonsense. I hope people here can exercise critical thinking.
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  2. #12
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Router View Post
    48 players is a lot harder to fill than 8 players, this should be obvious... I got into my first DRS static back in ShB with literally no achievements to my name, and I didn't even have to apply to multiple groups. I applied once and got in. If I had attempted to do the same thing for Eden's Promise (Savage), I would almost certainly have had to grind out the process because no half-decent group would pick up someone with no logs for Savage.

    Calling me a white knight is also hilarious when I am on record for criticizing a lot of things about OC and straight up calling the devs lazy. The only reason I'm replying to this thread is that I believe that it's not a good thing to drown out legitimate criticism with fabricated nonsense. I hope people can exercise critical thinking.
    Yes, that would be nice.
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  3. #13
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    You you took the best from Bozja and Eureka and combined it... and added the worst ingredient to the cocktail....

    Punishment by losing a level if you die, impossible to queue into and no pool of players.

    Also it does not seem like you can get into this cross instances either?

    Also it makes it very difficult to make discord groups with, you all need to be in the same zone to get in to begin with and on top of that only 72 people per instance max.

    Why could it not be like Pazuzu alike content instead where you just run to the CE and get rid of something or DR, where you queu in or something... or like the Special Instance in Bozja?
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  4. #14
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    Itachi Otsutsuki
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    Nobody wants to join a 48 man 'static' to do a public dungeon mate..
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  5. #15
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    Alyx Greywind
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by itachi-otsutsuki View Post
    Nobody wants to join a 48 man 'static' to do a public dungeon mate..
    On top of that we also have Discord Groups telling people to leave the instance for them, pretty sure this isn't how the Devs wanted the content to happen.
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  6. #16
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyx-Greywind View Post
    On top of that we also have Discord Groups telling people to leave the instance for them, pretty sure this isn't how the Devs wanted the content to happen.
    Can people be reported for that? That's "disrupting gameplay" if I've ever seen it. Especially because there's other reasons to be in an instance such as waiting for a specific CE, gold farming, chest hunting, etc.
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  7. #17
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    Can people be reported for that? That's "disrupting gameplay" if I've ever seen it. Especially because there's other reasons to be in an instance such as waiting for a specific CE, gold farming, chest hunting, etc.
    See it might be? Depends on what SE's vision for the tower is, if it's to simply go in, arrange yourself inside the instance as a Pug then I imagine it could be considered disruptive gameplay. I doubt anything would be done about it because people are engaging in the content which is what the devs want.

    It's more a symptom of how players are tackling the content given the restrictions, the last time we saw the players act in a way the devs didn't want in this kind of content we got Sleeping Dragons and inflated Mob Kill requirements. Those days are long gone so we'll see what sort of response we get if any.
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  8. #18
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyx-Greywind View Post
    See it might be? Depends on what SE's vision for the tower is, if it's to simply go in, arrange yourself inside the instance as a Pug then I imagine it could be considered disruptive gameplay. I doubt anything would be done about it because people are engaging in the content which is what the devs want.

    It's more a symptom of how players are tackling the content given the restrictions, the last time we saw the players act in a way the devs didn't want in this kind of content we got Sleeping Dragons and inflated Mob Kill requirements. Those days are long gone so we'll see what sort of response we get if any.
    True. Will have to see what they say about it. I just can't imagine that people getting harassed out of instances was what they wanted.
    Iirc when BA was new and people were getting harassed for trying to go in as a random, they changed the ToS slightly.
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  9. #19
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    Veya Akemi
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    Marilith
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    Can people be reported for that? That's "disrupting gameplay" if I've ever seen it. Especially because there's other reasons to be in an instance such as waiting for a specific CE, gold farming, chest hunting, etc.
    It really depends how they are doing, if they are trying to demand people to leave, yes that's very reportable, but going "Hey we are trying to organize a thing and would really appreciate if anyone can leave this instance to make it easier for us" is completely fine, a request is fine, a demand is not.
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  10. #20
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    Kali Zeruel
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100
    It really depends. If the random player who gets in is trying to do the fight, not intentionally griefing or causing a problem, I think they'd be 100% in the right to report someone who, for example, deliberately killed them with a tankbuster and then refused to raise. On the other hand, if the sniper is the one causing problems, I don't think it will end well for them. But this all seems difficult to prove either way unless there's video or something is said in the in-game chat.
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