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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    monsters have agro types besides just passive and aggressive there is sight/sound/blood/true/magic there maybe another but i can't currently think of any others.
    Didn't know they changed the game world rules on such a basic level. This might explain some of the frustrations I had when I once set my foot into Eureka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    Didn't know they changed the game world rules on such a basic level. This might explain some of the frustrations I had when I once set my foot into Eureka
    Yeah if you know the rules you can sneak by the enemies
    I think the elemental sprites for instant aggro to you if you cast magic near them
    There are sleeping dragons in the second map that you can slow walk by otherwise they wake up and one shot you

    Another thing you can do to make your time easier there is if you right click an enemy's HP bar you can have it automatically set your magia board to be offensive or defensive so you can do more damage / take less damage from those certain enemies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    Didn't know they changed the game world rules on such a basic level. This might explain some of the frustrations I had when I once set my foot into Eureka
    Yes, you used to have to walk when near sleeping dragons. Of course, you also wanted to avoid line of sight and keep as far away as possible given the level difference. Due to this, people could not pass the dragons in Eureka Pagos, and struggled to get to NMs until max level (which allowed them to use the Aethernet). The aethernet level was nerfed eventually, trivializing the entire area along with all the other nerfs and buffs.

    So it was fun when you were one of the few that could get past the dragons alive and reach the NM successfully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Yes, you used to have to walk when near sleeping dragons.
    I am 99% sure this is still a thing unless they changed within the last year, it's especially notable in Pagos where there is a dragon right at the cliff on the way to the forge, so you can get got in a very awkward moment. Though it is also possible to fight off dragons and kill them outright now, which is a big difference, especially at max level+elemental bonus, I often have done so to save people, or just out of catharsis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    Didn't know they changed the game world rules on such a basic level. This might explain some of the frustrations I had when I once set my foot into Eureka
    This is actually a thing in the normal game as well, but used sparsely, a notable example are the bats at the very start of Sastasha, which are sound aggro, and if you turn on RP walk, you can just, well, walk past them, and they will leave you alone, it's just walking takes so much longer that running up and killing them is faster, but you can easily test it yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    I am 99% sure this is still a thing unless they changed within the last year
    The reason it's not a thing really is because they nerfed the level you can attune to the NW and NE aethernets. That means you get beyond the dragons once, and that's it - you don't have to do it again. That one time could be a rez through or someone journey you in a multi-person mount. That nerfs a whole lot of the fun of Pagos in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Can't say I ever noticed any indicator of the enemy's aggro type, so I just never bothered to try and sneak around at all, even though I primarily leveled on NIN, because it seemed like everything was jumping me all the time no matter what I did.

    I'm not even sure what level you have to be over the enemy to make them stop instant-attacking you, I just know at some point ones below a certain level "eventually" started leaving me alone, but then the mobs right around the corner would be aggressive so traversing the zone was a constantly slow crawl because it never seemed like it was safe to mount up anywhere.
    the answer is 2 lvls below you! anything 1 level below you or higher will agro you so basically at lvl 20 anemos (lvl cap for it) only lvl 19 monsters or higher will agro you.

    eureka has is a low lvl is super dangerous while high lvl makes the overall area much easier and safer due to less agroing and how you will be much stronger than anything that you will normally come across especially since all the max lvl or higher monsters are way out of the way and you kinda have to go find them. the only time this not the case is for sleeping dragons and hydatos which you can easily hit the high lvl area one accident.

    basically once you hit lvl cap eureka is a pretty much different experience.

    i will also ask have you tried eureka after the moving and mounting update? i feel its also does a number on the difficulty of the content since you dont have to stand around to mount anymore. i wonder how you feel about it with the change if you have tried it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    the answer is 2 lvls below you! anything 1 level below you or higher will agro you so basically at lvl 20 anemos (lvl cap for it) only lvl 19 monsters or higher will agro you.
    Wait how do you know this? Did they announce this somewhere or are you guessing? Idk how we can have any tips per say until seeing the content. The only thing we can probably infer is that fates will be meta since that seems to be all that FFXIV knows when it comes to this content. Although it would be wild if we needed party members to take out higher level mobs for better xp. I would be happily shocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    This is actually a thing in the normal game as well, but used sparsely, a notable example are the bats at the very start of Sastasha, which are sound aggro, and if you turn on RP walk, you can just, well, walk past them, and they will leave you alone, it's just walking takes so much longer that running up and killing them is faster, but you can easily test it yourself.
    So after playing FF14 for years, today I learned something new... about the very first dungeon in the game
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