occult crescent tips and eureka comparison

[Musashidon]

i wanted to start a thread where others could give tips for the content/discuss how it is to eureka for people looking for information/ wanting to have a bit of forsight into the content. ( i know we got the expectation thread but i feel its more of a what do you want/think of the content thread and less informational)

one big tip i wanted to give is for anyone who didnt get to have eureka day 1/current eureka this content will be quite a bit different than current eureka because having multiple active instances and full instances really does change the dynamics of the content. even if you have been to a full active bozja it too was pretty different from eureka because of the way it worked compared to eureka with the way knowledge/elemental levels work and monster levels to monster ranks work spawning a NM that could one shot the whole raid simply because its was higher level is pretty hilarious.

my second tip is if your not sure the content is casual enough for you or you are afraid to step your toes into the content just pick up a tank or red mage they by far make the content more manageable (espcially with our level 100 kits compared to level 70/80)

i will also say feel free to ask questions if there is something you would like to know but havent heard in here!

[VeyaAkemi]

A very minor tip that I consider highly valuable for this type of content: If you aren't playing a Healer, SMN or RDM, pick up a Phoenix Down and keep it in your inventory, it's normally a very useless item, the fact there is a penalty for to Return in these areas means that being able to rez people is valuable, sometimes you are the last one standing after a rough NM/Critical Engagement, like say Ceto or Red Choctober, and that Phoenix Down will save you the time to go back to base, swap Jobs, and then return to rez people, you might never use it, hopefully you will never use it, but it's like 1k gil off MB at most and 1 inventory slot, very minimal cost for the benefit.

[Jeeqbit]

"Not sure if the content is casual enough" - just to clarify this, both Eureka and Bozja were extremely casual on release.

I did Eureka for about 3 hours at a time, about once or twice a week I think? That's an amount a busy working person could fit in at the weekend and still have time for lots of other things... and I got my whole weapon done pretty quick and met lots of cool people and made lots of memories. Yes, I include Pagos in this - it was also casual early on, despite being one of the most difficult and punishing areas.

Bozja was notoriously a joke to get through. You were looking at 1 day to get through the first zone. Likewise for the second one. The progression was so fast that some people thought it was a joke.

There's actually no excuse to claim the content isn't casual. It's those sort of claims that caused the changes between Eureka and Bozja. You can literally logout if you need to go with virtually no consequence, usually, in this sort of content.

[Kaurhz]

"Not sure if the content is casual enough" - just to clarify this, both Eureka and Bozja were extremely casual on release.

I did Eureka for about 3 hours at a time, about once or twice a week I think? That's an amount a busy working person could fit in at the weekend and still have time for lots of other things... and I got my whole weapon done pretty quick and met lots of cool people and made lots of memories. Yes, I include Pagos in this - it was also casual early on, despite being one of the most difficult and punishing areas.

Bozja was notoriously a joke to get through. You were looking at 1 day to get through the first zone. Likewise for the second one. The progression was so fast that some people thought it was a joke.

There's actually no excuse to claim the content isn't casual. It's those sort of claims that caused the changes between Eureka and Bozja. You can literally logout if you need to go with virtually no consequence, usually, in this sort of content.

I would also say it's fairly casual as well, but honestly, you do need to consider that for most people, the only real basis for comparison to Eureka was effectively our standard overworld, and when you do compare them they are leagues apart, in that it's almost impossible to die in the overworld. versus Eureka, where understanding basic traversal, especially enmity types is a lot more critical in a place like Eureka, especially pre-echo, and can prevent a lot of deaths, something that is just completely meaningless in overworld, and really any content with the exception of deep dungeon.

So whilst I don't really agree with people when they say it isn't casual, I can at least understand where the comments or issues stem from.

[Musashidon]

There's actually no excuse to claim the content isn't casual. It's those sort of claims that caused the changes between Eureka and Bozja. You can literally logout if you need to go with virtually no consequence, usually, in this sort of content.

casual and hardcore has tiers some people need paper enemies to participate in the content while others can handle enemies with a bit of bite so yes someones version of casual could be anothers version of hardcore in the end of the day everything is an opinion.

at the end of the day there is as many excuses to call content whatever anyone wants you don't rule over how others feel about content.

[Supersnow845]

casual and hardcore has tiers some people need paper enemies to participate in the content while others can handle enemies with a bit of bite so yes someones version of casual could be anothers version of hardcore in the end of the day everything is an opinion.

at the end of the day there is as many excuses to call content whatever anyone wants you don't rule over how others feel about content.

Then if the point is “I want it to be MORE casual than Bozja” my answer to that would definitely be no. Bozja was so casual compared to eureka that it barely functioned in terms of it actively encouraged people to do the absolute bare minimum and dump extra work on other people

[Aidorouge]

I'll probably just pass on Occult Crescent, since Eureka really wasn't the glowing endorsement for Field Operations that other people hyped it up to be.

It's also bizarre to see people argue that Field Operations are casual content when I'm a casual player and I didn't get the impression at all that it was content meant for me, and I was literally in the wrong instance.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[[...]It's also bizarre to see people argue that Field Operations are casual content when I'm a casual player and I didn't get the impression at all that it was content meant for me, and I was literally in the wrong instance.

Plainly speaking, I think it's pointless to argue what's casual and what's not in the forums because it's such an arbitrary term that gets warped depending on who you're talking to.

Field content in general are 'casual (subjective)' to me because they have all the bread & butter from what I'd expect whenever I step into any MMO gaming (this game is not an exception), and my approaches were always similar to:

(1)interact with people to learn more/look for available online resources while seeing if they're up to date. Experimenting is also viable but usually only when contents are pretty new;
(2)assume the worst whenever stepping into newer area (lethal/threatening elements such as mobs, environment, etc) and;
(3)expect punishments for my mistakes, then learn what can be done to reduce the probability of that happening again (I prefer to stumble due to my own mistakes rather than random f-ups that I have no control over).

You'll notice all those approaches are usually either not needed as much, unincentivized, or a combination of those two when it comes to the rest of mainline contents like MSQs. It's to no wonder the devs are fostering a playerbase with radically different PoV of what's casual and what's not.

[Gwenkatsu]

Here's a tip for talking about basically any content in the game: don't use words like "casual", "midcore", "hardcore" and the like - or your thread will be derailed in 0 time

BTT: No idea what your first tip meant, as I have 0 experience with Field Operations - but I'm definitely going to follow your second one.

my second tip is ... pick up a tank or red mage they by far make the content more manageable (espcially with our level 100 kits compared to level 70/80)

I'm already sharpening my axe, and have one finger parked on Bloodwhetting

[Kandraxx]

Only hardcore thing in this game is doing PotD solo, maybe can make a case for HoH as well but it’s not really up there. The rest is just mainstream trash.