NA Housing Demolition?

[Catwho]

Holy crow i have not seen this name in years. Are you the "original" catwho that proved ffxi would run on a netbook like 15 years back?

heh, fond memories.

Haha yep, that's me! My main is now Katarh Mest on Lamia, although I rolled a Lalafell on XIV's Seraph server named Cat Who for old time's sake.

For that netbook, I worked around the internal storage constraints by installing FFXI to an SSD card, so FFXI itself became like a video game cartridge. Worked like a charm.

Eventually I got a better laptop, and that little netbook developed an allergy to windows, so I installed Linux on it and gave it to a friend's elementary school age kid to use for typing up homework. In Small World Universe, that same kid ended up becoming one of my husband's college students last year....

(These days I run FFXIV on a spiffy little HP Omen when I need to go portable.)

[CCheshire]

It's possible to get a housing plot, but only during the time they added new wards to Aether, which was approx 2 years ago when I got mine.

Also, I feel like for FC, if there's enough funds, they could allow FC members to bid on 1 house in FC wards for a better chance too.

[Catwho]

It's possible to get a housing plot, but only during the time they added new wards to Aether, which was approx 2 years ago when I got mine.

Also, I feel like for FC, if there's enough funds, they could allow FC members to bid on 1 house in FC wards for a better chance too.

FC members can bid on behalf of the FC right now. The problem is that if you're an FC of 10 people, you're competing against dozens of individuals and other FCs that might also have 10-20 people. An FC for one of my characters on Goblin just lost a bit do another FC. There were about 37 entries, and the other FC had the lucky winning number.

Still better than standing at a sign and clicking for 10 hours.

[Kora_Blossom]

California is still in shambles and it's still gonna take them a long time to rebuild. I have family down there and they couldn't have evacuated even if they wanted to because they're basically in the center of where all the fires were.

If I can just put my two cents in and say.... I think this entire issue is out of selfishness. Ya'll realize this is just a game, right? You're mad that a video game company cares about their player base enough to stop a demolition system for massive disasters so that people have time to cope and rebuild what was lost? Ya'll are just complaining to complain about something, it's a video game.. get over it. Stop being selfish about a video game. You don't like how a system is? Don't play. Or maybe actually go help the relief projects out there actually rebuilding the cities that were destroyed.

How about go to Dynamis and actually POPULATE IT, so that it can have a chance to fill up. You don't realize how many empty houses that are going unbid on round after round. Instead of complaining that it's dead, help build it up and make a new community after it. Primal had to do it... Materia has been having to do it. There's a solution to your complaints if you would just... stop complaining and find your solution. I'm happy with my transfer. Yeah my friends are on Primal and Crystal, but I can easily visit to do content with them, and doing roulettes isn't much of an issue unless it's Frontline. All that would be resolved if people actually populated the place but everyone is too damn petty about living on a "dead DC"... it wouldn't be dead if you actually played there! The people that do play there are actually TRYING to make it playable, so be the community that XIV has won awards for and HELP.

[SophiaDL]

California is still in shambles and it's still gonna take them a long time to rebuild. I have family down there and they couldn't have evacuated even if they wanted to because they're basically in the center of where all the fires were.

If I can just put my two cents in and say.... I think this entire issue is out of selfishness. Ya'll realize this is just a game, right? You're mad that a video game company cares about their player base enough to stop a demolition system for massive disasters so that people have time to cope and rebuild what was lost? Ya'll are just complaining to complain about something, it's a video game.. get over it. Stop being selfish about a video game. You don't like how a system is? Don't play. Or maybe actually go help the relief projects out there actually rebuilding the cities that were destroyed.

How about go to Dynamis and actually POPULATE IT, so that it can have a chance to fill up. You don't realize how many empty houses that are going unbid on round after round. Instead of complaining that it's dead, help build it up and make a new community after it. Primal had to do it... Materia has been having to do it. There's a solution to your complaints if you would just... stop complaining and find your solution. I'm happy with my transfer. Yeah my friends are on Primal and Crystal, but I can easily visit to do content with them, and doing roulettes isn't much of an issue unless it's Frontline. All that would be resolved if people actually populated the place but everyone is too damn petty about living on a "dead DC"... it wouldn't be dead if you actually played there! The people that do play there are actually TRYING to make it playable, so be the community that XIV has won awards for and HELP.

"How about you go to a dead DC and get a house there even though you'll have to DC travel for literally every single thing, even a lot of MSQ dungeons, raids and trials, you wont be able to use your FC because you'll always be in DC travel, you wont be able to sell anything without transfering back constantly, but that's fine because at least you'll have a house that no one will ever come over to see !"

Hold SE accountable for the lack of housing and the plots not getting freed from auto demo ? Naaaah, blame it on the players instead for not wanting to move to a dead DC that was DoA just like Materia.

It's not up to people to move to a dead DC, leave friends and FC behind just because they cant get a house on the pre-existing dc's, and the fact you even write that unironically, putting the responsibility for dynamis (and materia)'s failure on the playerbase is very questionable, did you ever think that maybe materia and dynamis are surplus DC's that shouldnt even exist ? That both DC's are mostly populated by multiowners (and bots...) ? SE put up Dynamis expecting the massive influx of players to continue, yet it has gone down for quite a long time now, those DC's arent justified anymore, and they will stay close to empty (aside from seraph and kraken which are okay-ish).

The only solution is to distribute the dynamis servers to other DC's, because dynamis and materia both wont ever get anywhere close to the population of other datacenters, there's not enough population to populate this many of them, SE knew 4 worlds werent even close to populated, and they thought it was a good idea to add 4 new ones to those that already were empty aside from seraph, what could go wrong ? But yeah, pop off and blame it on the playerbase.

[Astronema]

The boomers are evil people that want to torture everyone.
We have here a system just as bad as the real life housing system.
They managed to recreate the modern housing market as a virtual one with every shameful negative problem included when a virtual resource should by its nature be infinite and with the negative problems removed. I can't at this point come to any other conclusion than it is an intended form of malice and torture.

[Kora_Blossom]

"How about you go to a dead DC and get a house there even though you'll have to DC travel for literally every single thing, even a lot of MSQ dungeons, raids and trials, you wont be able to use your FC because you'll always be in DC travel, you wont be able to sell anything without transfering back constantly, but that's fine because at least you'll have a house that no one will ever come over to see !"

Hold SE accountable for the lack of housing and the plots not getting freed from auto demo ? Naaaah, blame it on the players instead for not wanting to move to a dead DC that was DoA just like Materia.

It's not up to people to move to a dead DC, leave friends and FC behind just because they cant get a house on the pre-existing dc's, and the fact you even write that unironically, putting the responsibility for dynamis (and materia)'s failure on the playerbase is very questionable, did you ever think that maybe materia and dynamis are surplus DC's that shouldnt even exist ? That both DC's are mostly populated by multiowners (and bots...) ? SE put up Dynamis expecting the massive influx of players to continue, yet it has gone down for quite a long time now, those DC's arent justified anymore, and they will stay close to empty (aside from seraph and kraken which are okay-ish).

The only solution is to distribute the dynamis servers to other DC's, because dynamis and materia both wont ever get anywhere close to the population of other datacenters, there's not enough population to populate this many of them, SE knew 4 worlds werent even close to populated, and they thought it was a good idea to add 4 new ones to those that already were empty aside from seraph, what could go wrong ? But yeah, pop off and blame it on the playerbase.

If you don't wanna leave, then don't and stop complaining just because you wanna complain about something. /shrug

They created Dynamis because the other 3 were splitting at the seams during EW launch. They created Materia so that players in OCE could actually play in their region. I've literally not had to DC travel to do content unless I'm doing high end with my static. Roulettes pop just fine and people use PF to do other content.

The only thing they should have done when releasing Dynamis is not release DC travel at the same time. That's what screwed Dynamis over. We should have gotten one or the other, not both. Or at least not both at the same time.

[SophiaDL]

If you don't wanna leave, then don't and stop complaining just because you wanna complain about something. /shrug

They created Dynamis because the other 3 were splitting at the seams during EW launch. They created Dynamis so that players in OCE could actually play in their region. I've literally not had to DC travel to do content unless I'm doing high end with my static. Roulettes pop just fine and people use PF to do other content.

The only thing they should have done when releasing Dynamis is not release DC travel at the same time. That's what screwed Dynamis over. We should have gotten one or the other, not both. Or at least not both at the same time.

I actually used to be on Dynamis, I left when they closed Dynamis travel to other DC's at the start of DT and locked us dynamis players on there while others could travel, for an entire month I was seeing friends having fun on discord on crystal and primal while I was stuck on dynamis doing absolutely nothing once I was done with leveling, I promised myself I'd never let that happen again and the second world transfer opened, I left to crystal and have had 0 regrets since.

Materia and Dynamis are objectively both failures and the fact you cant recognize that is mind boggling, also if we use your scenario, and dynamis existed with no way to DC travel, you know people would simply have transferred off right ? That's once again what happened with Materia, people went back to JP because they couldnt travel anywhere and Materia was dead even with all the people that transferred so there was no point.

The "exodus" is long gone, stop bringing that back up, it's very long gone.

Also "stop complaining", people have more than the right to complain for a basic feature of the game which is housing, get over yourself, and especially stop blaming the playerbase for not wanting to move to a dead DC, you wanted to, good for you, not everyone wants to.

[Kora_Blossom]

I actually used to be on Dynamis, I left when they closed Dynamis travel to other DC's at the start of DT and locked us dynamis players on there while others could travel, for an entire month I was seeing friends having fun on discord on crystal and primal while I was stuck on dynamis doing absolutely nothing once I was done with leveling, I promised myself I'd never let that happen again and the second world transfer opened, I left to crystal and have had 0 regrets since.

Materia and Dynamis are objectively both failures and the fact you cant recognize that is mind boggling, also if we use your scenario, and dynamis existed with no way to DC travel, you know people would simply have transferred off right ? That's once again what happened with Materia, people went back to JP because they couldnt travel anywhere and Materia was dead even with all the people that transferred so there was no point.

The "exodus" is long gone, stop bringing that back up, it's very long gone.

Also "stop complaining", people have more than the right to complain for a basic feature of the game which is housing, get over yourself, and especially stop blaming the playerbase for not wanting to move to a dead DC, you wanted to, good for you, not everyone wants to.

Says a resident of Marilith....

Listen, I got a plot I've always wanted on Dynamis with zero competition. I'm happy with that. Versus having to fight 100+ people every round just for a small on another DC. Sure I miss seeing friends everywhere, but with auto demolition off and no sign of it coming back. To the people that actually WANT housing, there's an over abundance on Dynamis and multiple benefits to transferring. You're clearly a Dynamis resident, so.... I don't know what you're arguing for? If you hate it so much then leave.

I would not call Dynamis/Materia failures because the whole reasons they were made was to expand where players could be since the populated servers were so over congested. If someone doesn't wanna transfer, then fine, that's their choice. There's plenty of incentives. There's also plenty of incentives for new players to create characters on the new worlds. The whole point of these servers were because the player base was growing and the existing servers couldn't handle everyone. This was to alleviate server congestion, login times, etc. They're still baby servers, they're not failures.

"The "exodus" is long gone, stop bringing that back up, it's very long gone."

Yeah, it is long gone, you know why? Because it took a long time for it to populate. Guess what? That's what it's going to take for Dynamis and Materia to populate. They're still baby servers, give them time in stead of saying they're dead and telling SE to abolish them into other DCs. Some people are happy being on the new servers. How about you just leave it at that.

[Kora_Blossom]

I actually used to be on Dynamis, I left when they closed Dynamis travel to other DC's at the start of DT and locked us dynamis players on there while others could travel, for an entire month I was seeing friends having fun on discord on crystal and primal while I was stuck on dynamis doing absolutely nothing once I was done with leveling, I promised myself I'd never let that happen again and the second world transfer opened, I left to crystal and have had 0 regrets since.

Materia and Dynamis are objectively both failures and the fact you cant recognize that is mind boggling, also if we use your scenario, and dynamis existed with no way to DC travel, you know people would simply have transferred off right ? That's once again what happened with Materia, people went back to JP because they couldnt travel anywhere and Materia was dead even with all the people that transferred so there was no point.

The "exodus" is long gone, stop bringing that back up, it's very long gone.

Also "stop complaining", people have more than the right to complain for a basic feature of the game which is housing, get over yourself, and especially stop blaming the playerbase for not wanting to move to a dead DC, you wanted to, good for you, not everyone wants to.

In fact.. I believe I recognize seeing your name in a thread from last year complaining about being on Dynamis and being "stuck". You're still on Dynamis? You're well passed being able to transfer off if you hate it so much. Sounds like someone just needs to actually move off if they hate it so much or just... stop playing if they're gonna be so bitter about everything and get angry at everyone else.