Why is the game going down every expasion?

[Valence]

WAR went down for the worse when they removed gauge management during Inner Release (which is still a thing under Berzerk ironically), among other things.
I'd upvote by calling for people to be fired doesn't vibe well with me otherwise.

[YukioKobayashi]

WAR went down for the worse when they removed gauge management during Inner Release (which is still a thing under Berzerk ironically), among other things.
I'd upvote by calling for people to be fired doesn't vibe well with me otherwise.

That was a thing until what ... 4.1? 8 Years ago? The majority of the playerbase doesnt even know that IR used to have a 10s duration instead of stacks. I doubt the OP plays this game for this long.

[LilithGardenia]

I’ve been playing since 2013.I’ve seen War since the beginning

[ovIm]

WAR went down for the worse when they removed gauge management during Inner Release (which is still a thing under Berzerk ironically), among other things.
I'd upvote by calling for people to be fired doesn't vibe well with me otherwise.

Changing the gapcloser from "costs 20 Gauge, 10s CD" to "3 stacks, 30s CD per stack" was also a mistake that made the job worse, and this is a hill I am willing to die on.

WAR had a lot more things going on in HW/early SB, reducing the class to Fell Cleaves does it a major disservice.


Overall though, I agree with the OP. The devs keep sanding down the ($job) gameplay with each patch and expansion.

[YukioKobayashi]

Changing the gapcloser from "costs 20 Gauge, 10s CD" to "3 stacks, 30s CD per stack" was also a mistake that made the job worse, and this is a hill I am willing to die on.

Holy... there was nothing good about the 20 Gauge cost. You never used that skill outside of IR every 90s which removed the gauge cost. It was pretty much always more beneficial to just run back to the boss unless you were in narnia which you shouldnt be in the first place on a melee job. I cant think of a single raid in stormblood that required a warrior to peel of the boss entirely. (except maybe HW in o12s while using shit week 1 strats)
Onslaught outside of IR was so niche. You didnt even used it for the gapcloser itself.

[ovIm]

Holy... there was nothing good about the 20 Gauge cost. You never used that skill outside of IR every 90s which removed the gauge cost.

I was actually counting the minutes until someone would say that lol.

20 Gauge OS was amazing design because it discouraged spamming it, the opportunity cost (DPS loss when not used to keep uptime) meant it was an actual situational utility skill more useful for its intended design (closing gaps) than an extra bland and boring damage button you try to keep for your burst window.
Whether it was used often in the fights back then or not is irrelevant, the skills design was much smarter then than it is now. That being said, good for you that it was not needed on your strats, I got my mileage out of it and it was fun to use when I had to because for some reason I did sometimes end up in Narnia and had to keep my GCD rolling.

(ETA - yes i know that you still get mileage out of the current iteration of the skill by using it to close gaps and keep the GCD rolling - thats not the point I am making here)

[Absurdity]

I was actually counting the minutes until someone would say that lol.

20 Gauge OS was amazing design because it discouraged spamming it, the opportunity cost (DPS loss when not used to keep uptime) meant it was an actual situational utility skill more useful for its intended design (closing gaps) than an extra bland and boring damage button you try to keep for your burst window.
Whether it was used often in the fights back then or not is irrelevant, the skills design was much smarter then than it is now. That being said, good for you that it was not needed on your strats, I got my mileage out of it and it was fun to use when I had to because for some reason I did sometimes end up in Narnia and had to keep my GCD rolling.

(ETA - yes i know that you still get mileage out of the current iteration of the skill by using it to close gaps and keep the GCD rolling - thats not the point I am making here)

Not only was it a utility skill, it was also important for gauge and more importantly GCD manipulation in Stormblood. Depending on downtime and boss invuln phases you could spend the gauge on Onslaught (since it was roughly equal to Fell Cleave on potency per gauge spent) instead of Fell Cleave to end a phase on a combo finisher instead of just sitting there after a Maim and having your combo drop while you couldn't attack.

Anyone saying Onslaught was just a button you didn't want to press outside of IR simply didn't understand it's uses properly.

The same goes for Inner Release. I don't know why people praise the current 3 stack system when sure, it fixed latency issues, but it also removed any interaction between your kit and the guaranteed direct crit for 10 seconds. No longer can you aplify Onslaught or Upheavel, or selfhealing through (at the time) Inner Beast and later Nascent Flash, or counter damage from Vengeance.
But that's ultimately what all the warrior changes over the years boil down to and why I also consider it to have gotten worse, the removal of small optimizations that were never required of the casual player but brought depth to otherwise incredibly basic gameplay.

I also find it incredibly funny when people call Warrior's gameplay "just spam Fell Cleave" when every change since 4.1 has just continued devalue Fell Cleave itself as an ability.

[Taranok]

It's simple. The devs forgot that the 5 roles are supposed to approach the game in 5 very different ways, even if they softly overlap with each other. While there has been homogenization issues dating back to ARR, the second the devs forced everyone to do every mechanic the same way, which started being the norm in mid-ShB, the devs lost the ability to have both diverse class and encounter design.

This in turn forces them to homogenize classes that can't do the ever-stricter encounter design, which in turn dilutes any differences the classes have both between roles and each other. Compound this with a desire to make every class have something 'new' while forgetting to prune old stuff in each expansion and you get situations like BLM's leveling experience or GNB getting a third cartridge for some reason as the devs slowly draw the class further from its relatively perfect launch state.

It's like the devs are stuck in some sort of demented loop where the only solution is dragging the game more and more into the extremes, and people either love the extremes, or leave.