Wife unable to do alliance raid roulette once she hit 60.

[AmiableApkallu]

PvE is a memory/speed test whereas PvP is dynamic, reactive, and to many of us far more interesting.

Yes, PvP in FFXIV is a memory/speed test cranked up to 20. By comparison, PvE is Baby's First Time Playing a Video Game.

You can have a valid, defensible opinion about whether FFXIV PvP vs. PvE is "more fun", but anyone who's minimally competent at PvP can clear the MSQ and normal-mode content just fine.

[Mawlzy]

Yes, PvP in FFXIV is a memory/speed test cranked up to 20. By comparison, PvE is Baby's First Time Playing a Video Game.

You can have a valid, defensible opinion about whether FFXIV PvP vs. PvE is "more fun", but anyone who's minimally competent at PvP can clear the MSQ and normal-mode content just fine.

The memory test in PvP boils down to remembering a 4-button combo typically. While movement is fast, the reaction time required is much less than that in DT dungeons and trials.

[AmiableApkallu]

The memory test in PvP boils down to remembering a 4-button combo typically. While movement is fast, the reaction time required is much less than that in DT dungeons and trials.

PvP isn't about remembering which order to push your buttons in. That's PvE. After all, PvE has the static encounter design, where it's actually feasible to memorize what you have to do, should you so desire and be able, because you can count the number of possible scenarios on one hand.

PvP is about "remembering" that when presented with scenario #287 out of the 39124832947 million possible scenarios that you might face, because people are unpredictable, this is what you should be doing.

I wouldn't say I'm all that great at PVP either when I'm sitting on a 18 loss streak over the last 3 days, and I think I've won maybe 4 matches total since 7.2 dropped, so perhaps it's time I gave up on that as well since I'm clearly not making a difference by being there.

I think it's Role Actions that finally did me in and now I can't keep up

Role actions aren't a thing in Crystalline Conflict. So, what even are you talking about? Unless you've put on blinders and think that "PvP" and "Frontline" are the same thing? Because they're not. The two modes play out very differently. (Which is to say nothing of the forgotten step child, Rival Wings...)

[Mawlzy]

PvP isn't about remembering which order to push your buttons in. That's PvE. After all, PvE has the static encounter design, where it's actually feasible to memorize what you have to do, should you so desire and be able, because you can count the number of possible scenarios on one hand.

PvP is about "remembering" that when presented with scenario #287 out of the 39124832947 million possible scenarios that you might face, because people are unpredictable, this is what you should be doing.

Right, in other words using memory in PvP is completely impossible, hence my original point.

Dungeons and trials on the other hand have become a memory test coupled to rapid reactions.

To your claim someone minimally competent in PvP can easily clear MSQ trials and dungeons, again not my experience at all. The two modes require completely different skills.

In Frontline, for example, I'm invariably on the front page of the stat summary in two positive categories. In a DT trial I spend half the fight floor tanking. I am trying my best in both modes.

[Saraide]

I doubt I'm any better at Crystalline Conflict, and its a moot point anyway because there's no making up for my shortcomings (PVE or PVP) and I should have stayed gone.

Okay bye o/