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    AdaraSnow's Avatar
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    Aerynn Sun
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    Malboro
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    Astrologian Lv 90

    Wife unable to do alliance raid roulette once she hit 60.

    I seem to be having some kind of bug. My wife recently started playing and I made a new character to level and play with her. I have been going around doing all the unlocks with her. We finished ARR ultimate weapon, so I took her over to unlock the crystal tower raids. We unlocked them and did all 3 alliance raids the first night.
    My wife doesn't really bounce around on characters. She only has summoner/scholar leveled and now she's 60. For some reason when I try and que up for alliance raids after her hitting 60, it says that she doesn't meet the requirements. She has all the 130 iron works gear...but its saying she needs an item level of like 175 to que for alliance raid roulette. On my screen it says I need an item level of 70. When I drop group I can que solo. I also had her unlock redmage and samurai...and if she switches to red mage, she is able to queue up with me...but she doesn't really wanna have to switch jobs to do the alliance raid roulette...it seems like it's trying to put her into heavensward alliance raids with the item level requirement it's telling her, but we haven't even unlocked heavensward yet. We are just past the ultimate weapon. In the duty roulette options, the only one I have checked is the one that allows it to put us in already in progress groups. Hers is the same. Is there another option somewhere she might have messed with thats preventing her from queueing?
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    Menriq's Avatar
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AdaraSnow View Post
    I seem to be having some kind of bug. My wife recently started playing and I made a new character to level and play with her. I have been going around doing all the unlocks with her. We finished ARR ultimate weapon, so I took her over to unlock the crystal tower raids. We unlocked them and did all 3 alliance raids the first night.
    My wife doesn't really bounce around on characters. She only has summoner/scholar leveled and now she's 60. For some reason when I try and que up for alliance raids after her hitting 60, it says that she doesn't meet the requirements. She has all the 130 iron works gear...but its saying she needs an item level of like 175 to que for alliance raid roulette. On my screen it says I need an item level of 70. When I drop group I can que solo. I also had her unlock redmage and samurai...and if she switches to red mage, she is able to queue up with me...but she doesn't really wanna have to switch jobs to do the alliance raid roulette...it seems like it's trying to put her into heavensward alliance raids with the item level requirement it's telling her, but we haven't even unlocked heavensward yet. We are just past the ultimate weapon. In the duty roulette options, the only one I have checked is the one that allows it to put us in already in progress groups. Hers is the same. Is there another option somewhere she might have messed with thats preventing her from queueing?
    Nope. This was a change they made recently. Working as intended.
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    TheOperator3712's Avatar
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    Aldous Axehand
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    Midgardsormr
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Not a bug, this is completely intended behavior. Your wife is level 60, therefore she needs HW gear to queue for AR Roulette. This is because people used to game the system by unequipping gear to guarantee that they would queue into one of the ARR ARs.
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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheOperator3712 View Post
    Not a bug, this is completely intended behavior. Your wife is level 60, therefore she needs HW gear to queue for AR Roulette. This is because people used to game the system by unequipping gear to guarantee that they would queue into one of the ARR ARs.
    Not that it's changed the odds too much because CT is required for MSQ while the other ones are not.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Nope, they added an ilevel requirement to alliance raids to match where someone's adventurer level is but they forgot to add an MSQ progress qualifier. So they lock out characters that are above the level of the content they're doing but can't access higher level gear yet because it's still locked behind their MSQ progress.

    It was because people blamed getting Crystal Tower a lot on people who would de-gear before queueing but that wasn't remotely the issue. Now they're hurting innocent players with this.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Now they're hurting innocent players with this.
    "Hurting" is an exaggeration. OP's wife is level 60 so she doesn't need the xp. She also has ilevel 130 gear so she doesn't need the drops or the extra tomestones from roulette. Those 3 raids can still be queued for by selecting them individually instead of using Alliance Roulette.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    "Hurting" is an exaggeration. OP's wife is level 60 so she doesn't need the xp. She also has ilevel 130 gear so she doesn't need the drops or the extra tomestones from roulette. Those 3 raids can still be queued for by selecting them individually instead of using Alliance Roulette.
    Unless she's using tomes for an alt class which is a smart thing to do when you're leveling quickly. It's a decent amount for the roulette that you don't get when you queue directly. The drops are also still good for alt classes while you're gathering tomes for them. We forget as endgame players what the newbie experience is really like. That's why I started my Dynamis alt and try to play her like a sprout.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Unless she's using tomes for an alt class which is a smart thing to do when you're leveling quickly. It's a decent amount for the roulette that you don't get when you queue directly. The drops are also still good for alt classes while you're gathering tomes for them. We forget as endgame players what the newbie experience is really like. That's why I started my Dynamis alt and try to play her like a sprout.
    Even at that level if you are desperate for tomes for alt classes there are better ways than the alliance roulette

    The alliance roulette also needs to actually do its job of popping the high level raids which even now it struggles to do
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post

    The alliance roulette also needs to actually do its job of popping the high level raids which even now it struggles to do
    Of course it does because ilevel cheesing wasn't the problem. People were on almost instantly after they put the change in saying it wasn't working and SE needed to restrict this or that other new scrapegoat. CT is always going to have a massive imbalance because every player that goes through the story has to do it. What they need is to offer more carrots for players to unlock and do other raids.
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    Lilimo Limomo
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    "Hurting" is an exaggeration. OP's wife is level 60 so she doesn't need the xp. She also has ilevel 130 gear so she doesn't need the drops or the extra tomestones from roulette. Those 3 raids can still be queued for by selecting them individually instead of using Alliance Roulette.
    They're a married couple; one of them wants to do the roulette and the other wants to come, too. It's not about loot or rewards, it's about people wanting to play together and help each other out in an MMO. It's silly that they can't do a roulette together just because one of them made it to level 60 while still in ARR.
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