Please reduce tank healing power by a lot

[Carighan]

I will say this and it will be simple the hardest content have been cleared without healers more then once FRU and the one before have both been cleared without healers and I am probably sure many more to. when that happen it's because the balance of tanks healers and DPS isn't a thing at all it is broken beyond repair unless of drastic change are done and as long as the 2 minute burst is a thing it will never.

Nah, other MMOs have vastly more healing and defensive support on their non-healers. The difference is, those MMOs actually deal damage to the raid and the tanks in particular. They don't just autoattack for 22k once every blue moon when the boss isn't casting something + a pre-knowable 60%-70% hit every 20-60s as as raid mechanic. They deal actual damage to the raid. Consistent autoattacks, for 25%-50% of a tank's health depending on AA speed. 360° cleaves so all melee DPS consistently take some damage if in range, want it to stop? Move out of melee range, that's why you got a limited ranged arsenal! Constant untelegraphed AoEs and ranged attacks, no safety even at range!

[Nero-Voidstails]

it still highlights exactly the same problem even if you use numbers like a tank having heal is normal but when you can remove a whole part of the party it's because the balance is still broken. Even if it is tank problem or fight problem the problem still stand. the problem isn't exactly tanks in themself but with how the flight plays it sadly is. The design of all fight is well so focus on DPS on the 2 minute burst that the boss mostly only try to disturb that point the fight aren't design for equality in all job.

[Qyoon]

I will say this and it will be simple the hardest content have been cleared without healers more then once FRU and the one before have both been cleared without healers and I am probably sure many more to. when that happen it's because the balance of tanks healers and DPS isn't a thing at all it is broken beyond repair unless of drastic change are done and as long as the 2 minute burst is a thing it will never.

Add to that it has been cleared by adding more Tanks to the group lol.

Currently Tanks have :
- Their Tanks mitigation tools and HP Pool as they should.
- 70% of the DPS of DPS job
- 15% of the kit of healers.

One of those has to go down and tanks should stay tanks, the whole game is about making damage so there is only one logical thing left. Maybe i am wrong and tank dps should drop at the level of the healers are, but to be honest it would be weird to have combos ect land dealing the dame damages as people that are pressing only 2-3 buttons.

[Nero-Voidstails]

Add to that it has been cleared by adding more Tanks to the group lol.

Currently Tanks have :
- Their Tanks mitigation tools and HP Pull as they should.
- 70% of the DPS of DPS job
- 15% of the kit of healers.

One of those has to go down and tanks should stay tanks, the whole game is about making damage so there is only one logical thing left. Maybe i am wrong and tank dps should drop at the level of the healers are, but to be honest it would be weird to have combos ect land dealing the dame damages as people that are pressing only 2-3 buttons.

pretty much and but if no one want the tanks situation to change then fight have to become more center toward damage and mechanics not a memory games. alot of player with ToS get updated so they can report tanks that solo in content and I honestly get why but again show the problem

[ThorinG]

I think a quick solution is to make healing not as accessible as it is currently, my suggestion is to remove the healing effects from the Short mits ( Holy sheltron, bloodwhetting, heart of corr.) And add it to the 90 Sec mits ( thrill of Bttl., Bulwark, Camouflage).

And to balance it for WAR, the (increase maximum HP by 20%) can be removed from thrill and added to Bloodwhetting but with a 10% percentage.

Also remove party healing from Divine Veil and Shake it Off, its ridiculous to begin with..

[Rithy255]

I think a quick solution is to make healing not as accessible as it is currently, my suggestion is to remove the healing effects from the Short mits ( Holy sheltron, bloodwhetting, heart of corr.) And add it to the 90 Sec mits ( thrill of Bttl., Bulwark, Camouflage).

And to balance it for WAR, the (increase maximum HP by 20%) can be removed from thrill and added to Bloodwhetting but with a 10% percentage.

Also remove party healing from Divine Veil and Shake it Off, its ridiculous to begin with..

No thanks I want to play paladin not mitigation bot.

tanks need to go down in Self survivability and not go down in party utility and protection.

[Qyoon]

No thanks I want to play paladin not mitigation bot.

tanks need to go down in Self survivability and not go down in party utility and protection.

i agree, maybe some ability should heal more the party if not healing the tank or at least less healing on the tank himself.
A bit like AOE skill with falloff after the first target, make it so it heals the party more than it heals the tank.

[Nero-Voidstails]

No thanks I want to play paladin not mitigation bot.

tanks need to go down in Self survivability and not go down in party utility and protection.

I will ask this if the party wipe do you solo the boss?

[Rithy255]

I will ask this if the party wipe do you solo the boss?

Why ask this I don't see how it's at all relevant to my post.

But usually I do not solo bosses because it will take too long, I rather not waste time. If in general the healer goes down I'll be able to usually keep dps alive in dungeons and if the boss is at 20% or lower then yes I will finish it off, but soloing a boss I usually do not. Hopefully that answers your question.

[Nero-Voidstails]

Why ask this I don't see how it's at all relevant to my post.

But usually I do not solo bosses because it will take too long, I rather not waste time. If in general the healer goes down I'll be able to usually keep dps alive in dungeons and if the boss is at 20% or lower then yes I will finish it off, but soloing a boss I usually do not. Hopefully that answers your question.

it does and you have my respect there for such because well I do agree with you about paladin tho I still with they could have more support to like the old rpg paladin xx)