Wife unable to do alliance raid roulette once she hit 60.

[Supersnow845]

Still not really following. The AR series is unlocked in sequence. If someone chooses to stop unlocking it, I don't see how that is having a negative impact on anyone else.

Is that really how the level cap roulette works? Never done it.

The roulettes are designed to get people into what is being queued directly for. If you don’t have what is being queued for unlocked then you can’t help that person. That would be bad enough as it is but then on top of that the roulettes are also designed to minimise the average wait time so they flow properly.

So if person A is queuing for ivalice and then you queue for the roulette with only CT unlocked then the roulette is still trying to pop ivalice for this person but now also has to contend with you needing CT to pop in a somewhat timely manner because that’s how roulette systems work. So after a while of not getting enough people for ivalice the roulette may choose to minimise the average queue time and pop CT for you instead since you can’t do ivalice which deprives person A from having enough people to pop ivalice. This is why the higher level alliance raids take so long

So you aren’t just useless you are actively hurting them and warping the roulette’s purpose

I beg to differ, given the number of times I was kicked from Mhach and Ivalice before I was able to finish them all because other people did in fact care a great deal about me being bad and dying too many times (even when I was literally the only cutscene watcher and obviously new), meaning I was actively making runs WORSE than if I had never shown up, and now I don't contribute to the roulette popping at all because I don't want to deal with Mhach or Ivalice again, or how my experience with them has ensured I never touch alliance raids from Shadowbringers onward.
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The point is from a utilitarian perspective in terms of the utility of the roulettes even if you got kicked (which being kicked many times as a new person on an alliance roulette sounds odd) the roulette is still more useful than if it never popped those duties because there is very likely at least 2-3 others who were queueing for those duties that needed them popped

So now since you won’t unlock nier, myths or echos you queueing into the alliance roulette is warping it for those who want them to pop, because from a utility perspective it’s more useful for the average player for those duties to pop and kick you then it is for the duties to never pop. I don’t mean that in a harsh way, it’s just how the roulettes are designed to work

[Mawlzy]

The roulettes are designed to get people into what is being queued directly for. If you don’t have what is being queued for unlocked then you can’t help that person. That would be bad enough as it is but then on top of that the roulettes are also designed to minimise the average wait time so they flow properly.

So if person A is queuing for ivalice and then you queue for the roulette with only CT unlocked then the roulette is still trying to pop ivalice for this person but now also has to contend with you needing CT to pop in a somewhat timely manner because that’s how roulette systems work. So after a while of not getting enough people for ivalice the roulette may choose to minimise the average queue time and pop CT for you instead since you can’t do ivalice which deprives person A from having enough people to pop ivalice. This is why the higher level alliance raids take so long

So you aren’t just useless you are actively hurting them and warping the roulette’s purpose

So your claim is that, by reducing the total number of players doing ARs through your system (which is what it would do), the queue times for non-CT ARs would shorten?

If that's true, then the issue is with the queue prioritization algorithm.

If it is not true, you're simply constraining how people choose to play the game.

[Supersnow845]

So your claim is that, by reducing the total number of players doing ARs through your system (which is what it would do), the queue times for non-CT ARs would shorten?

If that's true, then the issue is with the queue prioritization algorithm.

If it is not true, you're simply constraining how people choose to play the game.

Yes because having less people in the roulette forcing it to pop CT would make the other raids faster even if less overall people queued because queueing for the roulette with only CT unlocked is tantamount to sucking 23 other bodies out of the roulette so you’d have to massively decrease the total amount of people to have it be worse for direct queuers of the higher raids

And in order to fix this with algorithm prioritisation they’d have to massively increase the queue length of people who did the right thing and unlocked everything because they would have to sit in a waiting room for the higher roulettes if the algorithm was changed to prioritise the higher roulettes

So if they changed the algorithm you’d just be punishing rouletters that unlocked everything else instead of just forcing people with only CT to unlock everything else

[Mawlzy]

Yes because having less people in the roulette forcing it to pop CT would make the other raids faster even if less overall people queued because queueing for the roulette with only CT unlocked is tantamount to sucking 23 other bodies out of the roulette so you’d have to massively decrease the total amount of people to have it be worse for direct queuers of the higher raids

And in order to fix this with algorithm prioritisation they’d have to massively increase the queue length of people who did the right thing and unlocked everything because they would have to sit in a waiting room for the higher roulettes if the algorithm was changed to prioritise the higher roulettes

So if they changed the algorithm you’d just be punishing rouletters that unlocked everything else instead of just forcing people with only CT to unlock everything else

This all sounds very clever, but one does need to be Lisa Piccirillo to recognize that removing players from ARs increases the average queue time over all raids.

Really it just sounds like spite.

[Kozh]

As for being kicked, it seems people had very little patience for my repeated deaths during the Ivalice raids probably BECAUSE it was a mogtome event and they wanted quick, smooth runs and the MCH eating it every other boss and holding them up during cutscenes was chaffing them something fierce.

Lol, AR are able to pull the boss even when someone is in cutscene. Also, you know you can skip cutscenes, right? Why would you watch them everytime you do raid?

Because there's a difference between dying and failing where it only impacts ME and dying and failing where it impacts everyone else. It's the reason I'm still slamming my head into Stage 29 of Masked Carnivale and trying to go deeper in Palace of the Dead, but you'll never catch me doing synced Extreme/Savage, or how stuff like Ultimate/Unreal/Chaotic is completely out of the question.

What I hadn't counted on was that even normal content would get too dicey for me starting with Stormblood, and my dying and failing during 4/8/24-man content ramped up significantly to where I only touch a handful of PVE roulettes at all, and even then I've taken the leaver penalty at times because that's better than being a hindrance in 61+ content.

You tried to do carnival stage and PoTD but somehow can't do ivalice? Sorry if I'm not buying it.

See, you are trying to avoid 61+ content instead of learning from others. Especially now since we have Trust, why don't you learn fight mechanic from that and then applied it when doing roulette?