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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Please what? I mean i agree Viper is easy but to say BRD is harder, hellll no everything you do is literally pressing 1 button all the time, proc managment? procs are doing a soundeffect, so you dont even need to look at your procs or anything, brd is on the same level then dnc, ezpz classes on the same level as viper but certainly not harder not even close to it
    I mean sure BRD is on the level of DNC if you don’t care about proc optimisation

    You are probably dropping like 10 casts of emperyal arrow but it does make BRD easier
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I mean sure BRD is on the level of DNC if you don’t care about proc optimisation

    You are probably dropping like 10 casts of emperyal arrow but it does make BRD easier
    i drop atleast 50 casts, dude please dont do like the job isnt on dnc level, EA = SS its the same thing dont drift it, the difference is EA gives you a Proc, Prog Optimization for what in which case? Its pretty simple dont OVERCAP keep 3 BL Charges for your Burst, THATS IT, there isnt any more "Opti" and btw the only time EA really matters for your procs is during WM and there is only the decision does a tick come up and i got 2 pitch stacks and EA is coming up, use a 2 stacked pitch, done so please in AP the procs doesnt matter and in MB you got more as enough charges so the chance to overcap if you are not dumb as hell is so minimal


    so yea bard really hard job, can eat cookies while playing it and performing a perfect rotation 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    i drop atleast 50 casts, dude please dont do like the job isnt on dnc level, EA = SS its the same thing dont drift it, the difference is EA gives you a Proc, Prog Optimization for what in which case? Its pretty simple dont OVERCAP keep 3 BL Charges for your Burst, THATS IT, there isnt any more "Opti" and btw the only time EA really matters for your procs is during WM and there is only the decision does a tick come up and i got 2 pitch stacks and EA is coming up, use a 2 stacked pitch, done so please in AP the procs doesnt matter and in MB you got more as enough charges so the chance to overcap if you are not dumb as hell is so minimal


    so yea bard really hard job, can eat cookies while playing it and performing a perfect rotation 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
    Yeah and VPR is on SMN level so I don’t see your problem, hell WHM is harder than VPR
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    i drop atleast 50 casts, dude please dont do like the job isnt on dnc level, EA = SS its the same thing dont drift it, the difference is EA gives you a Proc, Prog Optimization for what in which case? Its pretty simple dont OVERCAP keep 3 BL Charges for your Burst, THATS IT, there isnt any more "Opti" and btw the only time EA really matters for your procs is during WM and there is only the decision does a tick come up and i got 2 pitch stacks and EA is coming up, use a 2 stacked pitch, done so please in AP the procs doesnt matter and in MB you got more as enough charges so the chance to overcap if you are not dumb as hell is so minimal


    so yea bard really hard job, can eat cookies while playing it and performing a perfect rotation 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
    Tell me you don't play BRD at high level without telling you don't play BRD at high level...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Tell me you don't play BRD at high level without telling you don't play BRD at high level...
    but i play bard on higher level, so tell me lil boy what was wrong what i said? prove me wrong otherwise be quit
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    but i play bard on higher level, so tell me lil boy what was wrong what i said? prove me wrong otherwise be quit
    Do you seriously think that all there is to BRD is found in the GCD, quoting you "a perfect rotation 1 1 1 1 1 1"?
    I think we should send Sana the memo to just rewrite the BRD guides with "don't OVERCAP keep 3 BL Charges for your Burst, THATS IT".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Do you seriously think that all there is to BRD is found in the GCD, quoting you "a perfect rotation 1 1 1 1 1 1"?
    I think we should send Sana the memo to just rewrite the BRD guides with "don't OVERCAP keep 3 BL Charges for your Burst, THATS IT".
    dude that 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 was a joke, you have to add 2 between sometimes xD nah seriously it was a joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    dude that 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 was a joke, you have to add 2 between sometimes xD nah seriously it was a joke
    And go ask sana about PROC Optimization, there isnt much to it besides 1-2 small easy rules and most rules are only tied to WM because like i said in MB and AP proc managment comes down to "Use BL before overcapping and try to keep as much as possible for your burst without overcapping" a rule which nearly all classes have with kind of a charge based skill, in AP your procs doesnt matter at all FOR THE ACTIVE PROCESS to keep track of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    but i play bard on higher level, so tell me lil boy what was wrong what i said? prove me wrong otherwise be quit
    Looked you up. You certainly do not on your profile character. You're an excellent VPR and RPR, with some SMN mixed in for casual content. The only ranged job you have at 100 is MCH on Maweth Ashari.

    If you want to prove BRD is easy, why not take it through a few fights in the current tier and prove it? Shouldn't be hard if it's as easy as you say.
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