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  1. #201
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Oh many regulars know how many premades run around at any given time. On the days all the pvp players decide to queue a fl all at once for some reason, you'll see 3 in the same fl, at best. Maybe some duos, far less impactful. For the most part, solo player regulars who have at least some game sense and thus play decently, which makes you think they're premades but they're not.
    One of my funnier experiences on Discord was to see 3 premades form in LFG, all appear on my team, and when I remarked on the fact, two members of said premades told me (abusively) no premades were on the field.

    I'd agree the coordinated premades on Aether are typically between 0-2 in a given match. The fact that a single one can have such a profound impact on the texture of that match is still a problem IMO. But outright banning them strikes me as a blunt instrument at this point, and better solutions are available.
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  2. #202
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    How about we don't do that, it's an MMO.

    Just simply make friends and learn how to get good at PvP instead of trying to deny the fun for everyone.
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  3. #203
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    If there ever comes a day where every single player queuing up solo is there to win, reads their tooltips, and has a basic understanding of how to use their kits, then we can talk about removing premade accessibility and party on.

    Until then, get lost with this utter nonsense that it's groups of 4 ruining your game.
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    You should be happy that you got a win and pre made games tend to be fun most of the times!
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  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axriel View Post
    You should be happy that you got a win and pre made games tend to be fun most of the times!
    No they don't, they're boring whether you're with or against them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    No they don't, they're boring whether you're with or against them!
    What exactly makes them boring, that they aren't fodder that forgot to put Recuperate on their bar?
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  7. #207
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    I think the people complaining about premades are just too lazy to make on themselves but they still want to win games by putting in the least effort possible. The whole "it makes the game boring" makes no sense. If premades are really such a menace then making your own premade to fight them should be some fun competition. If you don't like competition then what are you doing in PVP to start with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DallsBeep View Post
    I think the people complaining about premades are just too lazy to make on themselves but they still want to win games by putting in the least effort possible. The whole "it makes the game boring" makes no sense. If premades are really such a menace then making your own premade to fight them should be some fun competition. If you don't like competition then what are you doing in PVP to start with?
    You've got it backwards. People only make premades because it turns the game into easy mode. They don't need to be good or skillful or creative when they can just follow their designated leader's instructions, align LBs and win by pressing one button. Players who go into premades are looking for easy, lazy, low effort wins.
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  9. #209
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    What exactly makes them boring, that they aren't fodder that forgot to put Recuperate on their bar?
    For me a lot of the boredom comes from playing follow the leader. While I don't understand Borderlands yet and don't currently like it, I think it offers promise for skirmishes.

    Also, quick suggestion to premade leaders/shotcallers. If you want cooperation, avoid /say macros like "Follow me, ducklings," and "This way baby turtles."

    We get you regard us as NPCs in your MCS fantasy, but please treat us with a little respect.
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  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    You've got it backwards. People only make premades because it turns the game into easy mode. They don't need to be good or skillful or creative when they can just follow their designated leader's instructions, align LBs and win by pressing one button. Players who go into premades are looking for easy, lazy, low effort wins.
    If the other side simply communicating with each other makes it impossible for you to win then what makes you think you deserved to win in the first place?
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