Ban premade parties in Frontline please

[Exmo]

I think the people complaining about premades are just too lazy to make on themselves but they still want to win games by putting in the least effort possible. The whole "it makes the game boring" makes no sense. If premades are really such a menace then making your own premade to fight them should be some fun competition. If you don't like competition then what are you doing in PVP to start with?

You've got it backwards. People only make premades because it turns the game into easy mode. They don't need to be good or skillful or creative when they can just follow their designated leader's instructions, align LBs and win by pressing one button. Players who go into premades are looking for easy, lazy, low effort wins.

[DallsBeep]

You've got it backwards. People only make premades because it turns the game into easy mode. They don't need to be good or skillful or creative when they can just follow their designated leader's instructions, align LBs and win by pressing one button. Players who go into premades are looking for easy, lazy, low effort wins.

If the other side simply communicating with each other makes it impossible for you to win then what makes you think you deserved to win in the first place?

[Exmo]

If the other side simply communicating with each other makes it impossible for you to win then what makes you think you deserved to win in the first place?

They're not simply communicating. They're in a discord call where communication is vastly easier than in-game chat. If you think there's no difference between in-game chat and voice calls, why do you suppose every static under the sun raids with a discord VC as the default?

[DallsBeep]

They're not simply communicating. They're in a discord call where communication is vastly easier than in-game chat. If you think there's no difference between in-game chat and voice calls, why do you suppose every static under the sun raids with a discord VC as the default?

"They're not simply communicating, they're communicating in some arbitrary way that I don't approve of!"

lmao The absolute state of "pvp" on this game, geezus.

[Teno]

They're not simply communicating. They're in a discord call where communication is vastly easier than in-game chat. If you think there's no difference between in-game chat and voice calls, why do you suppose every static under the sun raids with a discord VC as the default?

You're on hard cope mode at this point.

[Mistress_Irika]

You've got it backwards. People only make premades because it turns the game into easy mode. They don't need to be good or skillful or creative when they can just follow their designated leader's instructions, align LBs and win by pressing one button. Players who go into premades are looking for easy, lazy, low effort wins.

I don't see this holding up well. If it's not the premades we're following that's focusing on killing, then it's the shotcallers we're following that focused on objectives. Either way, we're following someone. Otherwise, the alliance collapses, and everyone is pushing for the game to end by any means necessary. Anyways, the reason why the game feels easy is because everyone is running the same strategy every game. It just happens to be some of the premades who are seeing this and using that fact to exploit. If it wasn't the case, then we wouldn't be zerging as much. Just saying.

[Exmo]

I don't see this holding up well. If it's not the premades we're following that's focusing on killing, then it's the shotcallers we're following that focused on objectives. Either way, we're following someone. Otherwise, the alliance collapses, and everyone is pushing for the game to end by any means necessary. Anyways, the reason why the game feels easy is because everyone is running the same strategy every game. It just happens to be some of the premades who are seeing this and using that fact to exploit. If it wasn't the case, then we wouldn't be zerging as much. Just saying.

I find any oppressive "follow the leader" style of play to be boring in FL, hence why I bundled suggestions in OP to mitigate that playstyle. I don't mind shotcalling at all. I do mind player approaches that make the mode unfun and frustrating. In my experience, the vast majority of games without an oppressive shotcaller, be they premade or not, tend to be more enjoyable. This is setting aside the important fact that certain toxic premades can annihalate their opponents simply by virtue of being in a VC and coordinating LBs.

[Gunz_Zbestest]

The only upside to premades is that they let me coast through and half-ass a match because the outcome is unavoidable 3 minutes in.

If premades are going to insist on taking away the agency and contributions of others, than I'm going to do exactly as instructed and relax while they spoon-feed me Ws or Ls.

Are you sure that's not the original reason people wanted to party up together in the first place? Almost sounds like the feeders are the opposite problem of the premades.