Quote Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso View Post
You are right on that particular minor point that the towers don't do damage, but you still literally ignored the entire point on how they used to make more than mere DDR mechanics. The Forsaken 1 heal check isn't just about soaking towers. You seized on that minor point to ignore the entire example and post.
The whole point of the original post was that it was an interesting heal check, in that you had to pre-shield before incurable was applied. This was due to the fact the shields were needed to soak damage that you had no, or very little time to heal between incurable falling off and the damage being taken.

The initial point that the pre-shielding was necessary is not true. Taking damage in a tight timeframe from incurable falling off was not true. The only damage going out after the HP reduction was from the tethered adds and the damage from those can be delayed, giving healers time to heal and shield as needed.

Granted, it is a good strat to try and preserve uptime for melee DPS or allowing casters to stand still for longer, but that wasn't the point being made. The point being made was the pre-shielding was the intended solution for the mechanic, which is not the case.

However, this still doesn't explain why it is not a DDR mechanic. Healers heal, you stand in the safe spot, mechanic resolves itself, heal ready for tether heads (which are just AoEs at the end of the day). What I have just described can be attributed to many things in the game, so why is it different to something else?

Now, it has been a while since I have done an on release savage fight (Back in ShB if you must know), but this also brings up another point, why it is only savage content that apparently has mechanics that are being classed as 'not DDR'? What about other pieces of content? If it is the case it only appears in savage content, then why are we judging the current fight design based on normal and not on the savage version? Surely, if it is only savage that gets the non DDR mechanics, then it is only fair to wait until then?

I am also not trying to trick you. My main thing has always been to try and get a definition of what it means for a mechanic or fight to not be classed as DDR. We obviously aren't seeing the same things, so you need to tell me what you see and why you see it, otherwise, this discussion is going nowhere and I can only conclude you have nothing to back up your statements.

Also, I am fully aware this guy is likely to be a Titanman alt (showing all the classic signs), however, I am using this as an opportunity to highlight how not to do things. It is fine to disagree on things, it is fine to have a discussion, infact, disagreeing on things and explaining why you have your point of view. This helps to dig into what the actual issue is and give more meaningful feedback as opposed to the vague statement of 'DDR', which could mean anything.