Ty SE for BLM changes!

[hotdamjam]

If we don't have a job that completely breaks if they can't keep a timer rolling in certain circumstances, then the devs no longer need to worry about trying to design fights around that one job with strict timers.

Im going to relate the astral timer on BLM to the songs for bard. I don't think it was a timer issue, they just added the potential for bards to cast their songs without needing a target. If the devs were worried about fight design + strict timers, they would have made this bard change ages ago.

[Daralii]

Im going to relate the astral timer on BLM to the songs for bard. I don't think it was a timer issue, they just added the potential for bards to cast their songs without needing a target. If the devs were worried about fight design + strict timers, they would have made this bard change ages ago.

They explicitly said that the BLM changes were made to accommodate faster DDR in fights.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Gone into some duties now and it's feeling weird but I don't hate it. I really enjoyed the turret playstyle but the combat design is not friendly to it at all so the changes I think are good for the overall playerbase even if die hard vets hate it. Already seeing way more BLM's in the content too which is nice!

[Basteala]

The problem you're going to find OP, I think, is that a lot of people enjoyed the bullshit from black mage. It was its own midcore content.

That said, given how oppressive Jueno was, I sort of understand the need--at minimum, to play with the cast times. So far at least in the new dungeon, it feels like your castbars, relative to the boss mobs, are about as sluggish (although slidecasting will be leagues easier now).

But I'm also rusty for having not played much in protest for how the game's been. So we'll see what happens when I'm back in practice.

I'm weirdly reminded of blue mage carnival fights, honestly.

[Wolwosh]

Gone into some duties now and it's feeling weird but I don't hate it. I really enjoyed the turret playstyle but the combat design is not friendly to it at all so the changes I think are good for the overall playerbase even if die hard vets hate it. Already seeing way more BLM's in the content too which is nice!

People are doing it now because they are curious.
I've just done a few roulettes and I absolutely hate it.
They took all the fun out...
Some people enjoy a bit of depth in their job and all of that is gone now.

[BiddyBatnana]

Same here I really like the changes x)

[Basteala]

People are doing it now because they are curious.
I've just done a few roulettes and I absolutely hate it.
They took all the fun out...
Some people enjoy a bit of depth in their job and all of that is gone now.

I feel like BLM is going to be boring as hell in old duties. I think there's something to it in 7.2's content where you're being asked to think so fast. At least with cast times. The change to Astral Fire and Umbral Ice's timers does kinda feel a little healer rotation.

[Rithy255]

People are doing it now because they are curious.
I've just done a few roulettes and I absolutely hate it.
They took all the fun out...
Some people enjoy a bit of depth in their job and all of that is gone now.

If only the game had a class system that could cater to both who want a easy job and a more complicated job... if only we had a job called summoner which was entry level for casters who didn't enjoy cast times on a magic dps. Maybe then they would instead play summoner and not have to worry about scary complex black mage where theirs room to fail.

what a shame indeed.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

People are doing it now because they are curious.
I've just done a few roulettes and I absolutely hate it.
They took all the fun out...
Some people enjoy a bit of depth in their job and all of that is gone now.

I was seeing more BLM players in 7.0 as well and the growth of BLM just looks to be continuing for me. It is much easier to play now for sure, I think for the majority the job will now be more nice to play. Honestly shocked it wasn't simplified sooner given how popular Black Mage is overall due to it being iconic within FF series as a whole.
Sorry you're not enjoying it, I felt the same going from STB astro to SHB ast. But I am quite enjoying the changes myself.

[Auro_Seldaris]

Butcher... is ... Rough. Butchering is as I said like what happened to Summoner.

This is more like at worst a bad haircut? To me the changes make a lot of sense.

Again my ignorance on Black Mage is what has me confused as an outsider looking in.

I think they were trying to do the changes people were asking for because it seems to be liberating limitations that otherwise held the Job back. I think 2 seconds is still a long cast time. . .
But maybe it have been better just to reduce all cast times by .2 seconds instead... Does that sound better?

Anyways as I know I don't know much about Black Mages this will be all I'll say about it.
I'll Leave you guys to it I'm out of my depth and I just don't understand since I didn't live the black mage life.

You don't have any idea what you're talking about , so why are you even interjecting your opinion? To put it to you in a way you might understand, what they've done to BLM was like taking 5.0 SAM and turning it into 7.1 VPR literally overnight.

There's literally no skill to playing it now. None. It feels fuckin odd to fuck up my rotation, KNOW that I fucked it up, and yet.... there's no penalty, really. It's literally giving me a cognitive dissonance that is frankly disgusting. When you make the timer such an important part of the job, and you rip it out, but dont' put anything in its place.... you've ruined it.

Classic "Chesterton's Fence" mentality.

Please, Japanese don’t understand sarcasm culturally, don’t bury us more.

This. They absolutely, as a culture, don't get sarcasm. The Japanese are an oddly earnest people in many ways. They either mean EXACTLY what they say, or they're lying, but no sarcasm. It mostly flies over their heads.

I was seeing more BLM players in 7.0 as well and the growth of BLM just looks to be continuing for me. It is much easier to play now for sure, I think for the majority the job will now be more nice to play. Honestly shocked it wasn't simplified sooner given how popular Black Mage is overall due to it being iconic within FF series as a whole.
Sorry you're not enjoying it, I felt the same going from STB astro to SHB ast. But I am quite enjoying the changes myself.

Thank you. I'm glad you, a person who doesn't main BLM and doesn't really even care to, are enjoying it. I'm glad they literally ruined my main, my favorite job, just to make you slightly less inconvenienced. I'm so happy that I'm unsubbed now. After all, they don't need ME anymore... they have YOU!

Like, you make the serious mistake of thinking I care if more people play it. I don't. I never have. I only care if it is designed to cater to those who enjoy its playstyle as it is, and SE obviously don't want to anymore. I unironically only care if BLM is desgined for BLM mains. For me. I don't care about anyone else enjoying it, period.