Genuinely, What am I missing?

[Basteala]

Most people's complaints come from Dawntrail, whether it's class changes in Dawntrail, or the dip in quality of the MSQ in Dawntrail--and occasionally things like the Blacklist fuckup. Most of this isn't really going to affect you as a new player: the class changes you'll never really know, the MSQ is great *until* Dawntrail.

Some misguided people played for only the story, and they felt that the most recent expansion's story wasn't up to par, so now their shoulders are in need of repair.

Oh you're right. In a story driven roleplaying game, the real meat and potatoes is in the 1, 2, 3, W, S, A, D gameplay. You're right, of course.

[AnotherPerson]

Most people's complaints come from Dawntrail, whether it's class changes in Dawntrail, or the dip in quality of the MSQ in Dawntrail--and occasionally things like the Blacklist fuckup. Most of this isn't really going to affect you as a new player: the class changes you'll never really know, the MSQ is great *until* Dawntrail.



Oh you're right. In a story driven roleplaying game, the real meat and potatoes is in the 1, 2, 3, W, S, A, D gameplay. You're right, of course.

I'd go and add to this saying it really started a couple expansions ago prior to Dawntrail too. For instance, the healer problem started ever since they changed up job design in Shadowbringers and healers who eventually get to max level get more irked with each passing expansion with these job design choices. It's just a bunch of different things that SE screwed up on, and with each consistent screw up, players have been getting increasingly dissatisfied to how they handle and resolve things. Some of that leaks into the forums overtime in small amounts, usually not enough to change the atmosphere of the forums from a positive to a negative one. However, some can be seen akin to a volcano erupting -- where players had enough of it. It just so happened that we had multiple of these happen back to back, so practically every single group of players have been affected in some way and are expressing dissatisfaction as none of these problems really get solved, but swept under the rug. I guess this is mainly why the forums are so negative lately when it was more chill, with players sharing their fun experiences maybe 5 years back?


Anyway, sprouts don't have to worry about the complaints veteran players have as they won't feel the problem until much later on. Most of the problems are only really felt when you run out of "new and shiny" things to do after finishing the story, and that's when players usually start focusing on the problems that the players on the forums talk about.