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    RyuuZero's Avatar
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    Ryu Kusanagi
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    Cerberus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SubmarineAlt View Post
    Kaiten added no additional depth to SAM. It was a button that had no nuance. No gray area
    Kaiten made it so you were able to boost all your Weaponskills for 20 Kenki, Shinten is just an attack for 25 Kenki. The Only Problem with Kaiten back then was if the Kaiten buffed Midare didn't crit, which btw could've been address with Kaiten giving crits or with the 6.1 Logic of Auto Crits, giving Direct Hit instead, btw also where is the nuance with Auto Crits?
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuuZero View Post
    The Only Problem with Kaiten back then was if the Kaiten buffed Midare didn't crit
    Literally irrelevant. Kaiten-era Midare and Shinten were identical in both crit chance and crit multiplier. No process they perform identically will differentiate them.

    But yes, given that Kaiten itself added 50% damage, almost identically to a crit, it could have been made a way to guarantee the crit (with crit chance increasing the damage bonus instead, as always) without issue.

    (It actually would have reduced the value of Kaiten faintly despite making it feel like more, since you could no longer benefit from multiplicity of Kaiten-crits but one would consistently see the big crit.)
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 03-19-2025 at 11:27 AM.