Why viper doesn’t have any defensive skill?

[lilmoon]

All other selfish DPS jobs have a defensive skill, but Viper does not. In fact, Viper has one of the fewest number of assigned buttons to press compared to other jobs. Could SE not have included a single defensive skill?

It feels as though the Viper job was half-baked and rushed to completion. At the very least, it would be nice to give Viper a passive movement speed buff, similar to what Ninjas have, and call it a day.

[Supersnow845]

Not all jobs have personal defensive skills

DRG, RDM, BRD, MCH and DNC also don’t with all but DRG amongst them having AOE defensives instead

VPR is just in a similar boat to DRG

Your point about the job being underbaked is totally valid though

[Tint]

VPR is just in a similar boat to DRG

DRG still has a higher defensive stat and with Life Surge an additional self heal.

[Carighan]

I'm sorry but the Life Surge thing is a bit silly to bring up. The heal is so tiny, you could remove it and nobody would even notice (as in, show the number but don't actually heal the Dragoon).

But yeah, Viper has Feint. If my Dancer is fine with just helps-both-me-and-others defenses, then so is Viper?

[Supersnow845]

DRG still has a higher defensive stat and with Life Surge an additional self heal.

Life surge is vestigial at this point and the difference between scouting and maiming is tiny compared to say scouting and casting

If anyone is going to blow up from lack of a defensive it’s RDM

[Azurarok]

maybe if this game's heal checks weren't mostly just mit checks RDM wouldn't have to worry about keeling over for having a vuln stack or two and a WHM in their party.

VPR's lack of a defensive I see as the cost of having a ranged attack that's a gain to use but not required in the 2m burst, making it easier to Greed less. It's still pretty common feedback so I won't be surprised if it eventually gets its defensive from PvP though

[AvoSturmfaust]

Because VIPER dont need it literally it really just dont need it, compare Bloodbath with Viper to the other Melees and you will see what happens, since everything viper has is physical and works with Bloodbath, pop Bloodbath and use Reawaken you will see your HP goes from 0 to 100


and if you die while not doing anything wrong its anyway the healer fault so viper really dont need any other defensive cooldown

[Aco505]

DRG still has a higher defensive stat and with Life Surge an additional self heal.

Life Surge is not used as a healing tool and even in that role it's lacking. It is extremely rare that LS happens to make a difference.

My only issue would be that the jobs without defensives should have something else as compensation but at the same time, not everything has to be the exact same with semi copy pasted abilities.

[Supersnow845]

Because VIPER dont need it literally it really just dont need it, compare Bloodbath with Viper to the other Melees and you will see what happens, since everything viper has is physical and works with Bloodbath, pop Bloodbath and use Reawaken you will see your HP goes from 0 to 100


and if you die while not doing anything wrong its anyway the healer fault so viper really dont need any other defensive cooldown

“It’s the healers fault”

This is why melees shouldn’t have feint

[AvoSturmfaust]

“It’s the healers fault”

This is why melees shouldn’t have feint

thats why i said if you didnt do anything wrong which includes the use of faint and sorry to tell you but if i use feint as melee and dont eat dmg i shouldnt eat and still die then yea its the healers fault