The slow decline of FFXIV, a summary.

[Wasselin]

I didn't watch the video, but let me guess... if only SquareEnix had listened to Lucy Pyre and done exactly what they think would have made them happy, then the game wouldn't be experiencing a decline. While I respect that they can say whatever they want about the game, I don’t agree that FFXIV is in decline or that it needs 'saving.' Every game has its ups and downs, and FFXIV continues to have a dedicated player base, regular content updates that many people enjoy, and a thriving community.

It’s easy to point fingers and say, 'If only they’d done X, Y, or Z,' but game development is incredibly complex, and what makes one player happy might alienate another. SquareEnix has made plenty of decisions I don’t personally love, but they’ve also done a lot right to keep the game alive and evolving for over a decade.

Instead of framing it as a decline and attacking SquareEnix’s decisions, maybe we should appreciate that FFXIV is still here, still growing, and still bringing people together. Let’s talk about what we love and what we’d like to see more of. Negativity only tears us apart and is self-defeating if we want to communicate effectively with the developers. No game is perfect, but FFXIV’s resilience and community prove it’s doing something right.

[Supersnow845]

I didn't watch the video, but let me guess... if only SquareEnix had listened to Lucy Pyre and done exactly what they think would have made them happy, then the game wouldn't be experiencing a decline. While I respect that they can say whatever they want about the game, I don’t agree that FFXIV is in decline or that it needs 'saving.' Every game has its ups and downs, and FFXIV continues to have a dedicated player base, regular content updates that many people enjoy, and a thriving community.

It’s easy to point fingers and say, 'If only they’d done X, Y, or Z,' but game development is incredibly complex, and what makes one player happy might alienate another. SquareEnix has made plenty of decisions I don’t personally love, but they’ve also done a lot right to keep the game alive and evolving for over a decade.

Instead of framing it as a decline and attacking SquareEnix’s decisions, maybe we should appreciate that FFXIV is still here, still growing, and still bringing people together. Let’s talk about what we love and what we’d like to see more of. Negativity only tears us apart and is self-defeating if we want to communicate effectively with the developers. No game is perfect, but FFXIV’s resilience and community prove it’s doing something right.

14 isn’t growing that’s the entire point

The game has 1.5 bad expansions and the playerbase cratered and the devs refuse to listen to any suggestions we offer them

The playerbase isn’t resilient, they have either left or created their own content through mods

[Wasselin]

14 isn’t growing that’s the entire point

The game has 1.5 bad expansions and the playerbase cratered and the devs refuse to listen to any suggestions we offer them

The playerbase isn’t resilient, they have either left or created their own content through mods

Part of my point is that hyperbole makes it hard to take feedback seriously.

I've been playing this game for ten years and plan to continue, I know a lot of people for whom that is the same. That's resilience. There aren't a lot of games that have that kind of staying power.

[Supersnow845]

Part of my point is that hyperbole makes it hard to take feedback seriously.

I've been playing this game for ten years and plan to continue, I know a lot of people for whom that is the same. That's resilience. There aren't a lot of games that have that kind of staying power.

Every MMO has an absolute core playerbase that refuses to leave no matter what happens (I know I suffered through legacy) that isn’t resilience because that playerbase never leaves. Resilience is ability to come back with the wider playerbase which 14 is failing horrendously at

You’ll find analogues to yourself in every MMO that’s even twice as old as 14 (hell RuneScape has capes for players who’ve played for more than TWENTY years, that doesn’t mean RS3 is in a healthy state)

[MisterNublet]

I've been playing this game for ten years and plan to continue, I know a lot of people for whom that is the same. That's resilience. There aren't a lot of games that have that kind of staying power.

Sunk Cost Fallacy.

[OliverQ]

Part of my point is that hyperbole makes it hard to take feedback seriously.

I've been playing this game for ten years and plan to continue, I know a lot of people for whom that is the same. That's resilience. There aren't a lot of games that have that kind of staying power.

Every MMO is like this though. Wow has been around for 21 years, and just released one of its better expansions with more on the way. It's more popular than FFXIV again I believe. Everquest is still going with a hardcore fan base. They've been at it for 26 years and just released their 31st expansion.

An MMO lasting awhile doesn't mean it's popular or doing well, it just means it has at least some hardcore fans who won't give it up no matter its flaws.

[Red-thunder]

That's resilience.

You mean hopelessly brainwashed?

[Arohk]

I didn't watch the video, but let me guess...

why even bother to reply when you are so ignorant and clueless, did you watch it by now?

[Kazuke_Miso]

why even bother to reply when you are so ignorant and clueless, did you watch it by now?

Well, being ignorant and clueless is kind of the defining trait of white knights. And a rabid attachment to the game.