The slow decline of FFXIV, a summary.

[Red-thunder]

And as a funny observation from someone who has been playing longer than you it’s funny that this is the first time they can actually back up that claim with dropping population numbers

Also people keep forgetting that the ShB influx was a mirage. SE didn't do anything to deserve it. It was all because WoW flopped.

[Red-thunder]

Please give me population numbers of 3.1 and 7.1.

It used to be that on the forums the goalpost was that player numbers are increasing.

Then last year it became that "it's still higher than Shadowbringers".

Now I guess the goalpost is "player numbers are higher than Heavensward".

Please stop own goaling lmao

[Lium]

Also people keep forgetting that the ShB influx was a mirage. SE didn't do anything to deserve it. It was all because WoW flopped.

I mean, the story in Shadowbringers was amazing. There’s a reason all those WoW players flooded this game which has a completely different focus than WoW. They could’ve gone to any other game, but they came here.

So, saying SE didn’t do anything to deserve it is disingenuous at best. To this day, FFXIV remains the #1 alternative game for many WoW players.

And it is still the second most popular MMO on the market.

[Red-thunder]

I mean, the story in Shadowbringers was amazing. There’s a reason all those WoW players flooded this game which has a completely different focus than WoW. They could’ve gone to any other game, but they came here.

So, saying SE didn’t do anything to deserve it is disingenuous at best. To this day, FFXIV remains the #1 alternative game for many WoW players.

And it is still the second most popular MMO on the market.

They came, and they left within one xpac. Wow what a good job.

[Lium]

They came, and they left within one xpac. Wow what a good job.

Which is more than you can say for every other MMO out there. And let’s not forget the primary reason they came here to begin with. It was because their game sucked.

And FFXIV remains quite popular.

[Red-thunder]

let’s not forget the primary reason they came here to begin with. It was because their game sucked.

There we go. It wasn't so hard was it?

[Lium]

There we go. It wasn't so hard was it?

Right. But they could've gone anywhere else. They chose to come here.

[Mawlzy]

Right. But they could've gone anywhere else. They chose to come here.

"Anywhere else" is somewhat limited, no? Like when I quit EVE Online because I hadn't been outside for 3 weeks, to me the two obvious MMO choices were WoW and 14. And I didn't like the WoW artwork.

SQEX definitely deserves credit for placing FF14 in that go-to category, but it also feels increasingly that FF14 is getting by on its reputation rather than its current content.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Right. But they could've gone anywhere else. They chose to come here.

There arent many MMOs out there anymore with a good population so no not really, the best decision based on playerbase was literally FFXIV

[Lium]

There arent many MMOs out there anymore with a good population so no not really, the best decision based on playerbase was literally FFXIV

Exactly. There’s a reason for that.