You pull you tank question.

[Grumblecakes]

When I tank I don't care if dps or healers get ahead of me. I am still going that way and will pick up the enemies quickly. My only issue is when they pull a boss when a player is in a cutscene, or run ahead and pull if someone died and is catching up still to where we are. I prefer to wait for them if I can.

[Grumblecakes]

Oh, my other issue is healer running ahead of me and then rescuing me when they get all the aggro. Thats a big no. Don't do that.

[Chiru_Kai]

There's no rule in the game that says you have to wall to wall as tank. Nor that you have to be as good at the game as other players want you to. If anything, YOU decided to queue the roulette that can give you anything from brand new players to vets. Expecting everyone to be at the same level as you is just silly. If you want a tank that is guaranteed to play how you want, then either play tank yourself or ask someone you know who can.

It is entirely possible to expect a minimum skill level of your fellow players while being empathic if someone can't keep up. Like I said in my post, you can give pointers, if the tank still struggles after, you definitely can and should accept just a lower pace.
But by that point, it is a difference between being UNABLE to keep up, and being UNWILLING to keep up.

The ones who say "you pull you tank" are generally universally people who are UNWILLING. And this is an issue. Because then we just allow players to say "I'm not going to heal you either" and "I'm just gonna AFK here". Because apparently there is no written rule telling them not to display a minimum viable skill level in order to play with others.

If a tank says at the start of a dungeon "hey I'm new to tanking or this dungeon, I'm going to take it slow", there is a super low chance that someone else will go "no. Screw you. Max speed.". Literally, if that happens, such people need to get kicked. But I'm willing to bet that 99% of players are fine with it, and they'll help.
But if the tank knows the social norm, and they are just unwilling to even provide an excuse for slow pulling, they just go slow without reason other than selfishness, it leads to annoyance. It is definitely up to the tank to announce this, because they are out of the norm. If they have too much of an ego to do so, then we know they are a troll and should not be tanking. And we all know what kind of hissy fits the YPYT tanks write in chat.

[NicholaiZidhane]

Please go seek a tank that cares about your ego.

Every single one of your posts is full on ego and being an insufferable jackass lmao

EDIT: So the reason I'm even here is a couple of days ago I got into it with a tank because I pulled the last group in Vanguard. Now I'm willing to take the L for not asking. 100% on me for that, BUT we had been W2W pulling the whole dungeon and just assumed (which again is my L) that he forgot about it. Now if he had asked I would have explained and apologized. Instead what I got was him getting snippy and throwing out the YPYT line (special shout out to the healer who needed to throw out the insults) so I didn't explain and just defended myself. It became especially funny to me when he, in the middle of his tantrum, told me to grow up.

[Ardeth]

This is not even remotely a big deal. If you pull, bring it back to me. I'll take the free mitigation while you have it.

[Nero-Voidstails]

like I said multiple time we all play a online game with various people some have disability other just stress to much so honestly I just follow the tank when I aren't one. and if I tank I try one big pull if it fail I will go slower and when the first pull reach mid HP I just move to the other! if the healer isn't used to heal big pulls it make them more manageable

[Supersnow845]

like I said multiple time we all play a online game with various people some have disability other just stress to much so honestly I just follow the tank when I aren't one. and if I tank I try one big pull if it fail I will go slower and when the first pull reach mid HP I just move to the other! if the healer isn't used to heal big pulls it make them more manageable

Chain pulling is literally the worst way to “help” an inexperienced healer

[Asari5]

Chain pulling is literally the worst way to “help” an inexperienced healer

depends how unexperienced the healer is tbh. sure if hes at zero then yes. but there are so many players who are stuck in their little bubble never even trying to do more than the absolute minimum.

at how many months does it count as necromancing?

[Rin_Sato]

What is the tank doing when they get mad? Refusing to tank anymore?

I don't care if someone runs ahead. I just hope they use arm's length and bring them to my AoE range so I don't have to chase them to Narnia for aggro.

Unironically yes, usually the tank doesn't say anything until I ask the party "The tank seems to be afk, hasn't attacked in 5 minutes, votekick?" and then they accept that they aren't as needed as they thought they were since we cleared the pulls and boss without them...

Why this is acceptable and not an automatic warning if they do it repeatedly I don't know, clearly the tank is actively griefing the rest of the party at that point, if the healer is able to do the tanks job and their own job at the same time, and the tank just stands there being bitter that they can't fulfill their power fantasy...

[Nero-Voidstails]

Chain pulling is literally the worst way to “help” an inexperienced healer

I ask them before and they are ok with it so why not something they are scared to let the tank die too but it also is a good way to keep everyone slightly happy. I have my fair share of experience good and bad I just refuse to give the others player what I got during my first time as tank that I can promise