#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[ForsakenRoe]

They're not even actually following their stance that they keep reiterating. Week 1 savage clears are mathematically impossible with the healers both doing 0 damage, so healers have to be doing damage anyway.

I mean, it's probably possible to clear the last fight of a Savage tier, without Healers doing damage. It just requires:

A: The team is playing at an incredibly high skill level, to be able to take advantage of raidbuffs etc. to deal enough damage to offset the lost damage from the Healers not doing any

B: Enough gear from Tome capping, reclearing the first 3 fights for Shines/Twines to upgrade that Tome gear, and at least 8 clears of the 3rd fight to get everyone the 'Tome Weapon Upgrade Gloop (tm)'.
This process would take literal months

C: Requires the Healers to literally 'play wrong', and I don't just mean 'because they're not doing damage', but instead, 'not using certain tools because they include damage'. For example, a WHM can't use Assize even for healing or MP restoration, because it might clip the boss. An AST can't Star or Macrocosmos. A SGE can't use Pneuma without a target. When the argument is 'can Healer do no damage and still clear', that should mean literally zero. This would also mean no SCH Chain or AST Cards/Divination as those provide damage of a sort

With all of that, it'd still be a very tough battle for any raid tier that isn't the current one (as this one was undertuned as all heck). But wait: the Raid Finder's Minimum Item Level for any given tier's final fight is 'the same item Level as the Crafted equipment of that patch', not the Item Level of the gear dropped in the Savage raid. So, clearly SE believes that 'Crafted set is enough to clear the tier and not be a liability to the team'. Only way that is possible is... if the Healers do damage too.

[CaptainLagbeard]

C: Requires the Healers to literally 'play wrong', and I don't just mean 'because they're not doing damage', but instead, 'not using certain tools because they include damage'. For example, a WHM can't use Assize even for healing or MP restoration, because it might clip the boss. An AST can't Star or Macrocosmos. A SGE can't use Pneuma without a target. When the argument is 'can Healer do no damage and still clear', that should mean literally zero. This would also mean no SCH Chain or AST Cards/Divination as those provide damage of a sort

Yea the argument definitely isn't about avoiding damage at all costs, but more of just standing there doing nothing instead of spamming their one attack while waiting for the boss to do raidwide damage.

[Aravell]

I mean, it's probably possible to clear the last fight of a Savage tier, without Healers doing damage. It just requires:

You forgot crit fishing, the difference between your big hits critting or not can be quite large. You can see it in short phases like in ultimates, I'm sure you've had times where you kill way earlier than expected in some phases while other times it's down to the wire with just 1 healer death.