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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    IMO, no..

    Because this can quickly bloat the active quest log.

    Just make more meaningful use of the "Recommendations", to display proper recommendations, and not this "Here's the sidequests in your current area"
    Like I said that is already covered with a feature that is available in game. Just untrack them or allow them to be cancelled and revert to a blue quest. Knowing things exist and where to go for them would be much more helpful than a couple quests listed on a menu most ppl barely look at would be detrimental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    Like I said that is already covered with a feature that is available in game. Just untrack them or allow them to be cancelled and revert to a blue quest. Knowing things exist and where to go for them would be much more helpful than a couple quests listed on a menu most ppl barely look at would be detrimental.
    My problems with those is that it can very quickly be intrusive, even if done in earnest. Across an expansion, between all the Aether Currents, feature unlocks like Scrip system, additional dungeons, trials, and raids, you're quickly going in excess of what the maximum quest log allows. Even if you, say, untick them so they aren't in the log, you still have them present on journal. This would be very intimidating as a new player when they get to Post-ARR and it has just decided to assign you 20-something quests because of all the Post-ARR dungeons, optional dungeons, hard-mode trials, extreme trials, etc.,

    It's the same thing with cancelling those quests, it requires that the player knows what they are cancelling, e.g., is it a dungeon? or a trial? or a raid? Or is it a random feature unlock? This is why I still think expanding and making "Recommendations" more relevant would be the best middle-ground. People don't check these because more oft than not it's just on-area, as opposed to game-wide recommendations.

    If it could make recommendations game-wide, and look more at the overall completion of the character in relation to duties unlocked, and then give recommendations based on that, in addition to whether it's a trial, or a dungeon.. Versus, telling me to go do Singularity Reactor because it's the only on-level trial I have., and have unlocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    My problems with those is that it can very quickly be intrusive, even if done in earnest. Across an expansion, between all the Aether Currents, feature unlocks like Scrip system, additional dungeons, trials, and raids, you're quickly going in excess of what the maximum quest log allows.....
    I think you didn't read or skimmed what I posted or maybe I explained it poorly. I also understand some ppl see a feature from WoW or FFXI being asked for an have the knee jerk reaction of, "Not in MY game, go play FFXI/WoW if you want that, but its not welcome here!" which is funny considering how much in XIV is already borrowed from those 2 games, and idk if you feel that way or not, so let me again explain.

    That is why I stated important things, not all blue quests. Class to job unlocks at level 30, chocobo and chocobo npc, retainer ventures and deep dungeons that is 5 pre-50 that get unlocked at different times and only more if you get another class to 30, which stilll isn't horrible and spread out to the point you could even throw gold saucer, PVP and maps in there. At 50 there would be HW msq, extremes, coil, scrips/master crafter (if crafting gathering is high enough so half at best new players would get this), and CT. 60 would have Stb MSQ, Void Ark, warring triad, Eureka, Alex, 70 would be ShB MSQ, Ivalice, Omega, HoH, Bozja, etc etc. The only ones I would exclude are blue quests that unlock with msq progression and are right next to msq, the weapons trial series for instance.

    Mind you these would not all unlock at the exact same time, esp pre-50 since the new expac MSQ isn't unlocked until after all the patch content and outside of a new expac they can even cancel these so you only get a pop up for the first new expansion or new patch quest since they unlock where the previous one ends. Some also require certain other conditions to be met, so there wouldn't necessarily be 5 things popping up at once unless you are active enough that having 5 pop up at once would most likely be exciting. If you are overwhelmed by a handful of quests that unlock as you progress then idk what to tell you. Inundating a player with quests for every dungeons, every classless job unlock, every aether current, etc yes would be overwhelming, that is why I specifically stated important or large content piece quests. I have gotten 2 or 3 at the same time in WoW and it's a non issue. I couldn't imagine this being that stressful for any player and we really shouldn't refuse to help everyone because 1 or 2 ppl may get upset at a 2 quest boxes popping up at the same time, cause if you do get that freaked out by it, you frankly have a lot bigger problems to sort out.
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