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  1. #281
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    You'd be surprised how many people have their logs hidden but forget to private their achievements on Lodestone and have O4S/UCOB or O8S/UWU cleared for the first time on the same day, lol.
    Up until very recently when some people I knew confessed either a friend/ brother/ partner cleared for them I didn't even think anyone would do this..It completely flew over my head, and I was genuinely surprised. And then I also found out that selling accounts with all of those clears included is a very lucrative business.

    I still don't understand the point of it. I guess sitting in Limsa flashing your undeserved weapon feels good to some people?
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  2. #282
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    Up until very recently when some people I knew confessed either a friend/ brother/ partner cleared for them I didn't even think anyone would do this..It completely flew over my head, and I was genuinely surprised. And then I also found out that selling accounts with all of those clears included is a very lucrative business.

    I still don't understand the point of it. I guess sitting in Limsa flashing your undeserved weapon feels good to some people?
    It's convenience ultimately. Why do it yourself and dedicate the time when you can open your wallet and have someone else do it for you in a day? Same thought process behind why people buy skips imo.
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  3. #283
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naphtalia View Post
    It's convenience ultimately. Why do it yourself and dedicate the time when you can open your wallet and have someone else do it for you in a day? Same thought process behind why people buy skips imo.
    convenience for what???? Probably one of those people in the forums who were enraged that some of the glamours are locked behind Chaotic. (jk.. kinda or..)

    Why do you even do any content unless it's fun and engaging for you?

    As for the story skip. I support that because the story is an absolute slog. I didn't even think the story was that good, to begin with,and a lot of people have little to no interest in playing NetFlix or Otome.
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  4. #284
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    convenience for what???? Probably one of those people in the forums who were enraged that some of the glamours are locked behind Chaotic. (jk.. kinda or..)

    Why do you even do any content unless it's fun and engaging for you?

    As for the story skip. I support that because the story is an absolute slog. I didn't even think the story was that good, to begin with,and a lot of people have little to no interest in playing NetFlix or Otome.
    Convenience in the sense that you can get it without having to dedicate weeks or months of time. Buying clears has been a thing for years now tbh, so there's definitely a market for people who don't want to put in the work but still get the reward.

    There's also probably some people who might not have the time availability in general to do Ults (but would if able) so paying for them is their only way of doing it.
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  5. #285
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    Playing hard fights mainly for the prestige is kinda goofy whether you cleared it yourself or paid someone else to do it for you. Like who cares, people who worry about whether someone "really" cleared it should get a new hobby
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  6. #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naphtalia View Post
    Convenience in the sense that you can get it without having to dedicate weeks or months of time. Buying clears has been a thing for years now tbh, so there's definitely a market for people who don't want to put in the work but still get the reward.

    There's also probably some people who might not have the time availability in general to do Ults (but would if able) so paying for them is their only way of doing it.
    The real reason still eludes me on why they would do that. Convenient for what? the achievements? the glam? I am genuinely confused. And lastly, who the F cares if you cleared an ultimate or not, if 90% of the time you sit in Limsa and you cannot effectively do the fight if people would ever invite you to do any of that content?
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  7. #287
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    Playing hard fights mainly for the prestige is kinda goofy whether you cleared it yourself or paid someone else to do it for you. Like who cares, people who worry about whether someone "really" cleared it should get a new hobby
    Bad take. It's healthy for MMOs to have aspirational content and having people bypass the challenge to claim the reward diminishes that. There's a reason that you can't buy Olympic medals at the convenience store. They're supposed to represent a significant achievement.
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  8. #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Is it a misusage when you ask 5/10/20 clears in YOUR pf ?
    As much as people hate to hear this, yes, it is. You have absolutely zero way to get this information within the game except for 1/5/10 clears of the final savage floor of the tier.

    That means that you are using an external site to artificially gate someone that already qualifies for the party with the restrictions we have in game (Duty complete setting). That does qualify for misuse.

    when you ask people to be on a certain prog point ?
    You can ask people to be at a certain prog point, nothing's stopping you from doing so. But if you go to a certain external website to get information you have no way of knowing and kick someone out according to that information that you should have no way of knowing, yes, it's misuse.

    To know their rotation in savage/ultimates ?
    That should be a given that people should know their rotation before doing hard content. You don't exactly need any external tools to know that a SAM that's lower enmity than the BRD with no deaths is doing something terribly wrong.
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  9. #289
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    Benedikta Harman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    As much as people hate to hear this, yes, it is. You have absolutely zero way to get this information within the game except for 1/5/10 clears of the final savage floor of the tier.

    That means that you are using an external site to artificially gate someone that already qualifies for the party with the restrictions we have in game (Duty complete setting). That does qualify for misuse.



    You can ask people to be at a certain prog point, nothing's stopping you from doing so. But if you go to a certain external website to get information you have no way of knowing and kick someone out according to that information that you should have no way of knowing, yes, it's misuse.



    That should be a given that people should know their rotation before doing hard content. You don't exactly need any external tools to know that a SAM that's lower enmity than the BRD with no deaths is doing something terribly wrong.
    so if sites are forbidden then discord is forbidden also
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  10. #290
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    so if sites are forbidden then discord is forbidden also
    My point isn't "sites are forbidden", my point is how you use the site, but ok.
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