fflogs and privacy

[brinn12]

Square knows about FFLogs and they will never do anything against it and that is completly finea

How can you call this "completely fine"? Square can invalidate any player complaint due to these tools not being official. Although uncommon, they've already done so: "we have different numbers". The playerbase always indirectly admits using third party tools when they ask for changes, which is against the ToS. Most of the times, Square turns a blind eye when answering. It feels like two groups of children having a conversation.

While the third party website doesn't want to hide people's nicknames, their profile being private by default would be very easy to achieve. We need an official FFXIV tool, and anything different is far from "completely fine", so long as Square keeps the same stance towards ACT.

[Kohashi]

If they rely on fflogs for balancing issues like you're saying and the game is still this poorly balanced, they should stop relying on it.

And how would you suggest they do a large sample pool containing all levels of mastery over the job concerning the content they release?

[AvoSturmfaust]

How can you call this "completely fine"? Square can invalidate any player complaint due to these tools not being official. Although uncommon, they've already done so: "we have different numbers". The playerbase always indirectly admits using third party tools when they ask for changes, which is against the ToS. Most of the times, Square turns a blind eye when answering. It feels like two groups of children having a conversation.

While the third party website doesn't want to hide people's nicknames, their profile being private by default would be very easy to achieve. We need an official FFXIV tool, and anything different is far from "completely fine", so long as Square keeps the same stance towards ACT.

Its fine for me because im used to it, Final is the last Game which is kinda "primitive" Eso allows Mods even goes so far to Support in the Future Mods on Consoles, WoW allows Mods, so many MMO allowing Mods because thats something where the feature in MMOs are, only Final refuses it "Official" while lets be real, they dont really care like i said earlier


And the biggest Issue is not "ACT" or "FFLogs" its the Crybabys which are scared of to get kicked out of a Group because of the Logs while refusing to even try to IMPROVE.

[brinn12]

And the biggest Issue is not "ACT" or "FFLogs" its the Crybabys which are scared of to get kicked out of a Group because of the Logs while refusing to even try to IMPROVE.

Just keep in mind that people like you are the reason we don't have ACT in FFXIV. Probably never will. And any instance of using it is illegal, while other MMOs either have it or allow third party usage, like you pointed out. You're being part of the problem, not the people you're referring to.

[Asari5]

the problem are the extreme ends on both sides. its not just one of them.

[Lilapop]

And how would you suggest they do a large sample pool containing all levels of mastery over the job concerning the content they release?

There are many variables fflogs simply doesn't account for when determining player skill. Why do you find it a flawless way to balance content, rather?

[Lilapop]

And the biggest Issue is not "ACT" or "FFLogs" its the Crybabys which are scared of to get kicked out of a Group because of the Logs while refusing to even try to IMPROVE.

What about the people who don't care about their logs... are they also a "crybaby" in your definition? Because, nobody likes being kicked out of groups, I don't think you'd react positively to it either.

[AvoSturmfaust]

What about the people who don't care about their logs... are they also a "crybaby" in your definition? Because, nobody likes being kicked out of groups, I don't think you'd react positively to it either.

I would accept it, is my Playstyle or my "Skill" not the Standard certain Groups want, then i accept it and move on instead of going to the Forum and complain about FFLogs, you cant force your way in a group if your standard is not the same as the group standard

im not a top player either not even close to it, but i carry my own weight and i expect the same from everyone, if you wanna do content carry your own weight if you cant dont expect to get carried and be mad if you get kiicked

[Lilapop]

I would accept it, is my Playstyle or my "Skill" not the Standard certain Groups want, then i accept it and move on instead of going to the Forum and complain about FFLogs, you cant force your way in a group if your standard is not the same as the group standard

im not a top player either not even close to it, but i carry my own weight and i expect the same from everyone, if you wanna do content carry your own weight if you cant dont expect to get carried and be mad if you get kiicked

Can people not "carry their own weight" and not care about their logs at the same time? They're not mutually exclusive.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Can people not "carry their own weight" and not care about their logs at the same time? They're not mutually exclusive.

Ofc they can, but let me ask you something if people wouldnt "care" would the whole fflogs thing even matter? no, they complain and trying to get rid of it even because it matters for them and i mean its not like you get kicked because you are only blue or purple, if you get kicked because of the logs would mean to be constant at grey which would mean you lacking significant class fundamentals