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    VeyaAkemi's Avatar
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    Veya Akemi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    It's fair to say the community has a double standard as to which invasive data collection they find acceptable.
    The stalker plogon has no excuse other than stalking, FFLogs has a more explicit, purposeful use, in the end most people are pragmatic, and care not for what is being done, only for what it is being done for.
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    Player LibitIncarne's Avatar
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    Libitina Incarne
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    Phantom
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    The stalker plogon has no excuse other than stalking, FFLogs has a more explicit, purposeful use, in the end most people are pragmatic, and care not for what is being done, only for what it is being done for.
    However, FFLogs doesn't explicitly need to be opt-out for its intended purpose. If it was opt-in, people using it would still be able to use it to compare themselves against other people who use it while the stalker plugin being opt-in would be quite literally pointless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    Malicious how? FFlogs has been around for a long time, but apart from the harassment that can happen also without it (let's say because a person is wiping the party repeatedly), I don't get where you are going with it and how that information could be used maliciously. Clue me in please.
    You've probably seen the COD PFs with "must have 10+ clears" in their description, right? That's the malice. As well as whatever the hell this quote is.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Im honest, if i see someone hide his Logs (Ofc only in Savage/Extreme, everything else i dont care) i will kick him without 1 second of a thought, its not about being a bad or good player and i dont even care if he is orange or grey, the only thing which matters for me is the amount of reclears he has. So like previous people said, if someone uses fflogs to harass you just report him and move on
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    Last edited by LibitIncarne; 01-22-2025 at 07:00 AM.

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    Lucaon Soho
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibitIncarne View Post
    You've probably seen the COD PFs with "must have 10+ clears" in their description, right? That's the malice. As well as whatever the hell this quote is.
    I haven't but I did see you needed to have all achievements in Elder Ring, played all previous FF games and so on...

    I have only joined 2 CoD parties cause while I think the fight design is super fun, progging this shit in PF is no tx. If I do the fight will be either with a "static" or simply by joining an organized Discord for this.

    This tier PF has been a miserable experience for me and party requirements or toxicity aren't the reason for it.
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