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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    I mean, clearly there were enough people that felt and found them different that the devs kept MP and got rid of TP right.
    This is about Mana Shift and Goad. They are functionally the same thing except one is for TP and one is for MP. You liked one, but not the other with special attention to Mana Shift on Black Mages.

    This has nothing to do with the MP and TP system and all to do with how illogical it is that 2 actions, that are functionally the same, can harbour different opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    This is about Mana Shift and Goad. They are functionally the same thing except one is for TP and one is for MP. You liked one, but not the other with special attention to Mana Shift on Black Mages.

    This has nothing to do with the MP and TP system and all to do with how illogical it is that 2 actions, that are functionally the same, can harbour different opinions.
    Wait... what? Did you read what I said? I am going to quote for you:

    "The only thing I didn't enjoy was TP and goad - the concept of your player getting too physically tired to attack was a bit too much for me."

    It's the TP system and goad by extension as a part of it I didn't enjoy. Not goad in a vacuum.

    That's not the conversation I was having. You need to work on understanding context clues here. Unless you didn't mean to reply to me and were trying to make some random take for the general reader.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 01-20-2025 at 06:16 AM.
    Below we have a transcription of what Naoki Yoshi-P Yoshida said at PAX:
    - "For some players, like me, I kind of get sleepy because it's so repetitive."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Wait... what? Did you read what I said? I am going to quote for you:

    "The only thing I didn't enjoy was TP and goad - the concept of your player getting too physically tired to attack was a bit too much for me."
    And jobs that use MP are too tired/don't have enough aether to use spells. Literally the same concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    This has nothing to do with the MP and TP system
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    And jobs that use MP are too tired/don't have enough aether to use spells. Literally the same concept.
    Yeah... I think I'm gonna call it here. Good luck though.
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    Below we have a transcription of what Naoki Yoshi-P Yoshida said at PAX:
    - "For some players, like me, I kind of get sleepy because it's so repetitive."