Do you think that Picto needs a nerf?

[mallleable]

Y'all gotta remember there were half as many jobs back then as there are now. Mechanics that were handled by the BRD in ARR turned into phys ranged mechanics when MCH was added, turned into ranged mechanics as the rest of the ranged jobs were added And players got better at playing casters as well as the developers got better at designing casters. The bell has been rung.

[Supersnow845]

Y'all gotta remember there were half as many jobs back then as there are now. Mechanics that were handled by the BRD in ARR turned into phys ranged mechanics when MCH was added, turned into ranged mechanics as the rest of the ranged jobs were added And players got better at playing casters as well as the developers got better at designing casters. The bell has been rung.

I mean in the nicest way possible I don’t care that adding more jobs makes their job of unique fights harder because constantly adding new jobs is their own self inflicted rule

If they can’t maintain quality between all the jobs then there is too many jobs it’s a simple as that

[Lyth]

Changing the fight design doesn't alter the fact that PCT is fundamentally overpowered. It just becomes more overpowered or less overpowered depending on whether the fight favors burst/downtime or not.

I agree that they're wasting their time adding new jobs if they have one job dominate the others like this. They need a fresh job design team at this point.

[Shyxx]

Picto isn't just OP in Ultimate and Savage, whenever I get one in dungeon of any level for example I know the mobs are just going to melt. Here are the speed statistics for endgame dungeons:

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/57

[Valence]

A reversion to earlier designs where you are a lot more fixed in position could mean a greater reliance on begging for caster relative strats. Which is great fun in a static, it's fun planning around that kind of constraint, but doesn't play as well in PF.

I've always maintained that in ShB and Endwalker, 100% casting uptime has always been in your own hands. I'm not sure I'd like a raid tier where that isn't the case.

I don't recall many "adjust to the caster" problems before ShB/EW personally, but perhaps there is specific cases I just don't remember about. There has always been cases where trying to accomodate the caster better has been a thing (and every time far from mandatory), and it's not been any different since forever. The whole difference isn't about accommodating the caster, it's what you're busy doing as a caster. Today casters spend 80% of their time caring about how to keep casting while dancing. In spite of their total lack of mobility, casters of yesterdays barely cared about that. It wasn't just what pve was about. Just look at HW BRD or MCH, which were actually less mobile than any modern job. They rarely had problems about moving either, because it was just rarely a concern.

Casting uptime has always been in your own hands.

[Carighan]

I mean in the nicest way possible I don’t care that adding more jobs makes their job of unique fights harder because constantly adding new jobs is their own self inflicted rule

If they can’t maintain quality between all the jobs then there is too many jobs it’s a simple as that

Yeah plus frankly I want better jobs, not more jobs.

We got so many jobs, but they're so similar and so shallow in their gameplay. They ought to go 1-2 expansions without new jobs, instead focus on 2-3 total reworks each major patch until they're done with all of them!

[Nero-Voidstails]

honestly I wouldn't mind if they stop adding job and just focus on what we have make more skills more difference the more they keep adding the more they look like each other really with just the weapon and main mechanic nothing else really change

[Altera]

honestly I wouldn't mind if they stop adding job and just focus on what we have make more skills more difference the more they keep adding the more they look like each other really with just the weapon and main mechanic nothing else really change

Yeah I've said it for a while myself that there is enough different jobs already. Rather spend time to make them play more uniquely and break the 2 minute meta.

[Azurarok]

Picto isn't just OP in Ultimate and Savage, whenever I get one in dungeon of any level for example I know the mobs are just going to melt. Here are the speed statistics for endgame dungeons:

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/57

The job's also really good in dungeons because there's downtime between packs and bosses. It's pretty much the exact same reason it's so strong in Ultimates

[Valence]

Ninja is good in dungeons because they're downtime to reset ninjutsu.
PCT is outright broken in dungeons.