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  1. #21
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    Selene Halflight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Yeah this. FOMO is ultimately a player's choice, not an immutable law of nature.
    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    FOMO is there because they are doing things to keep people subbed, and they won't bend that considering the sub dropoffs.
    FOMO is a Result of a Design Choice.
    You can Design to include it's chance to "spawn" or infect a players mind if they have a "enough lack of willpower" to be affected.

    Or simply Design to not include it.
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    And people will do things they find are enjoyable and be happy to partake in it, if they aren't forced at any moment when the desire rises.

    The difference between Constantly running content you enjoy til you're tired, or need to take a break.

    And being Tired and Irritated against it from the before starting, and doing it regardless. Due to your ultimate goals. <"Now What do we Do. - We Can Play the Game - Oh Right.">

    There is overlap between the two in certain contents, like raiding. But for most players it's more worthwhile if it's of their own choice and not being given an ultimatum.
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    Just like Certain Reward make no sense being part of other content. Like Objects for a Job/Class that can't even do said content in the first place <Blue Glamour/Weapon in Criterion>. Or Hairstyles in content that will never be as openly available, or depending on the person, could of just been automatically unlocked as previously due to the games aging customizations <CoD Chaotic>.

    and many other cases, Somethings shouldn't mix, like oil and water, and many Hydrophobic Materials.

    With PvP the Gamemode itself, Should be the Strongest Driving Factor, The EXTRA BENIFITS for partaking should just be there for the currency/malmstones reached/gained by just playing.

    [If they made a Malmstone Path for Ranked CC, then maybe it would make sense. But otherwise, It makes no sense to FOMO rewards<But even so, should be a Reoccuring or Selectable option to run it, at any moment>. More so if it's limited, it becomes a nonstarter/dealbreaker for many.]
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Router View Post
    I think the only reason the FOMO still exists is because Square is afraid CC queues will dry up without the battlepass incentive. FWIW I think CC would be fine without the battlepass, but I suspect that's the reason
    This is it, really. Same reason they're terrified of increasing the tome cap in odd patches or unlocking Savage earlier. Once they do, it's not something they can backpedal on without massive backlash.
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    CC rewards are one thing, but let's not forget The Feast rewards.

    I don't mind if the Shadowstalker armour costs commendation crystals, I'll grind for it. Just let me earn it somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Completely agree we need something to buy with trophy crystals and wolf marks. The problem is that if you make those items exclusive to PvP, Frontline in particular gets populated by people who don't really want to be there and "play" accordingly, as is happening now.
    This can be solved by rewarding good PVP performance with significantly more marks and crystals. [And no rewards for people who do not meet a bare minimum in at least one way (dmg/healing/assists/kills)]. This will make people want to improve, because why care if you could just get carried in Frontline? Also, let us sell the PVP items on MB so that people who hate PVP can buy it there instead of clogging the mode with underperformance. Make it farming content for those who enjoy PVP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    This can be solved by rewarding good PVP performance with significantly more marks and crystals. [And no rewards for people who do not meet a bare minimum in at least one way (dmg/healing/assists/kills)]. This will make people want to improve, because why care if you could just get carried in Frontline? Also, let us sell the PVP items on MB so that people who hate PVP can buy it there instead of clogging the mode with underperformance. Make it farming content for those who enjoy PVP.
    I'd rather move it in the opposite direction and greatly reduce rewards for those who don't perform well. I'd also like to see people (outside of PvP newbies) who consistently massively underperform to pick up PvP bans of increasing length. Yes DCs happen, but in FL you'll see people who have multiple deaths who have not restored any health. They just move often enough to avoid the auto-kick.
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    Ah here we go... where do you set the bar on minimum performance then? What is underperforming? What metric will you use?

    This is a rabbit hole you probably don't want to get into.
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    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Ah here we go... where do you set the bar on minimum performance then? What is underperforming? What metric will you use?

    This is a rabbit hole you probably don't want to get into.
    I think 0HP restored would be a simple one. But yeah I understand the issues with job-to-job variations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    I think 0HP restored would be a simple one. But yeah I understand the issues with job-to-job variations.
    There are a lot of people that seem to genuinely not know that Recuperate and elixirs exist and are determined to not learn that they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    There are a lot of people that seem to genuinely not know that Recuperate and elixirs exist and are determined to not learn that they do.
    Not sure if it's don't know or don't care. If you're hiding behind a rock I guess you don't need anything on your hotbars. But yeah it's super frustrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Not sure if it's don't know or don't care. If you're hiding behind a rock I guess you don't need anything on your hotbars. But yeah it's super frustrating.
    I've had plenty of FL and CC matches where people are out and doing what they're theoretically supposed to be doing except for using either of those two buttons. I don't get it, but it happens.
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